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Re: THAILAND [Phichit] - [Three] Several new suspected cases in Phichit
The entire area of South East Asia is a powder keg. And since none of the authorities have a clue what is going on outside their own office building, we are all guessing. The locals are unwilling and/or unable to see a doctor early. And when they do they usually misdiagnose the disease. It isn't until after someone dies and for some reason they do an autopsy they find out it actually was H5N1. Or, in rare cases they take blood samples after the patient survives and find anti-bodies. Because there is no easy way to diagnose this early, most cases are never found. People die all the time of pneumonia, H5N1 just looks like yet one more case. There are probably hundreds, perhaps thousands of cases of H5N1 deaths all over the region. Our only hope is recognizing a case where the family is wealthy and can afford to see a doctor and demand they test everything. Or, we see the start of a cluster.
Since the h2h cases in Indonesia, each day opens the door to clusters. We are very close. We got very lucky last time because it looks like the strain which caused the cluster died out. Next time we may not be so lucky. Finally, for reasons no one yet fully understands, this flu appears to have the same periodicity as normal flus. By that I mean the numbers of victims increase in the fall and winter and drop off in late spring and summer. (In the Northern hemispheres seasons) We are in the hiatus period now. So, while we still might see this thing erupt tonight, it is more likely to blow up in the fall or winter. The dice just keep rolling and no one anywhere knows or, is willing to tell us if the dice have all come up snake-eyes. Ignorance, poverty, stubbornness, greed, and chance all play vital roles. So my advice is to get as close as you can to being prepared now. If this blows up in the next few days you are covered. If it goes pandemic in the fall, you are protected. I'm not advising you do those last few runs to the store to top off fresh fruit, just make sure that if this thing catapults into catastrophe before we even know of its existence, you still have food and water to help you avoid the virus.
Please do not ask me for medical advice, I am not a medical doctor.
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A strain of bird flu has been found in chickens in Thailand and it may prove to be the deadly H5N1 virus.
Officials say the virus is detected on a farm in the northern province of Pichit, one of seven "red zone" provinces where surveillance was stepped up this month. An 11-year-old girl is in a Pichit hospital with flu-like symptoms after chickens died on her family farm, a doctor told Reuters.
Test results are due later today and if H5N1 is confirmed, it will be Thailand's first outbreak in nearly nine months.
The virus has killed 14 Thais since it first arrived in the country in late 2003. The last death occurred in December 2005.
- RADIO AUSTRALIA
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A strain of bird flu has been found in chickens in Thailand and it may prove to be the deadly H5N1 virus.
Officials say the virus is detected on a farm in the northern province of Pichit, one of seven "red zone" provinces where surveillance was stepped up this month.
An 11-year-old girl is in a Pichit hospital with flu-like symptoms after chickens died on her family farm, a doctor told Reuters.
Test results are due later today and if H5N1 is confirmed, it will be Thailand's first outbreak in nearly nine months.
The virus has killed 14 Thais since it first arrived in the country in late 2003. The last death occurred in December 2005.
- RADIO AUSTRALIA
...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes
Jul 24, 2006 (CIDRAP News) ? Thailand is facing its first outbreak of H5N1 avian influenza in birds in 8 months, along with flu-like illnesses in a number of people in areas with sick birds, according to news services.
Thai agriculture officials said the virus was identified in a fighting cock from the northern province of Phichit, the Bangkok Post reported in a story published late today. The dead bird was from Bang Mun Nak district, where almost 300 birds were culled after the mysterious deaths of about 30 poultry 2 weeks ago, the story said.
The confirmation came shortly after poultry farmers and a senator accused the agriculture ministry of covering up the re-emergence of the disease following "massive deaths of poultry in many provinces" starting early in July, the newspaper reported.
Earlier today, the Thai newspaper The Nation said Agriculture Minister Sudarat Keyuraphan confirmed that 20 samples of dead fighting birds from Phichit had tested positive for avian flu, according to a report today by The Nation. Agence France-Press (AFP) quoted him as saying the virus was an H5 strain, but it was not yet known if it was H5N1.
Sudarat said the virus was detected in imported chickens, and he announced a ban on poultry imports, The Nation reported. To contain the outbreak, he said, officials have imposed quarantine near where the birds died and have prohibited the transport of birds.
Two other provinces, Phitsanulok and Uttaradit, also are reporting suspicious poultry deaths, The Nation said.
Meanwhile, a number of suspected human cases of avian flu have been reported. A United Press International report published 2 days ago said local news media were reporting that two sisters, aged 3 and 4, were in a Phichit hospital with suspected avian flu and that lab results were expected by July 27.
Today The Nation reported that three other patients were hospitalized in Phichit: two men, aged 59 and 86, and a 7-year-old boy. All three were reported to have had contact with dead chickens. Also, a Reuters report said an 11-year-old girl with flu-like symptoms was being treated in a Phichit hospital after chickens died on her family's farm.
In addition, a report yesterday in The Nation said two men, aged 67 and 35, were hospitalized in Uttaradit Provincial Hospital with avian flu?like symptoms that developed after they ate spotted doves. The report said blood samples were taken for testing at a nearby laboratory.
Fifteen other patients, two of them from Phichit, had been on a watch list for suspected avian influenza but were removed after tests came back negative, The Nation reported today. But the disease has not been ruled out in a 5-year-old boy from Phitsanulok, and Uttaradit province has three patients with flu-like symptoms, the story said.
Thailand has not had a confirmed human H5N1 case since last December. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the country had 17 human cases with 12 deaths in 2004. Five more cases, two of them fatal, occurred in 2005.
Sudarat, the Thai agriculture minister, had said on Jul 6 that he hoped the country would be entirely free of avian flu within 3 years. At that point there had been no outbreaks in 239 days, he said.
"Bird flu" resurrect around 4 discover in fighting cock place province Phichit after chicken die unusual 20 bodies [?] is illness very much/a lot immunity little when there is report find people infected with suspected bird flu 2 cases livestock province announce area house [?] olive at the present time 11 basically that red back discover virus H5N1 in chicken domestic when bureau control illness explain also to be no patient infected with prepare send team investigate illness down area already.
M.R. [name] watch over minister govern Ministry of Agriculture disclose that center research & development task veterinarian the North (section lower) Department of Livestock obtain report task discover virus bird flu amount 1 sample in fighting cock which alive fighting cock of Mr. Chumpon [name?] apply to be home number 95 meter 11 district [?] olive district Baang Moon Naak province Phichit.
Because authority domestic animal/livestock receive report from villager that there is chicken die like unusual since date 16 July preceding amount 20 bodies from amount fighting cock absolutely of Mr. Chumpon amount 295 bodies then authority veterinarian from office domestic animal/livestock province can enter carry out collect sample poultry (conical swab) send diagnose to center research and development veterniarian the North (section lower) province Phitsanulok after find virus by authority livestock can destroy all.
In order that from task find virus aforementioned affect to Thailand there is chronicle/record find virus bird flu total already all 4 round is cycle/anniversary first/initial period among date 23 ม.ค. 2547 (2004)-24 พ.ย. 2547 cycle/anniversary second 3 ม.ค. 2548 (2005)-12 เม.ย. 2548 cycle/anniversary third 1 July 2548 (2005)-9 พ.ย. 2548 and at present 24 July 2549 (2006) respectively which task find virus in this time there is interval from task find virus time latest 254 days.
M.R. [name] say blame cause in task find virus this time anticipate/predict that because weather that there is rain abundantly in area that long more 2 months cause virus disease to be in air/oxygen/climate get for a long time include with chicken alive sickness very much make give evidence spray water/fluid disinfectant of by Department of Livestock be inefficient because chicken there is physical condition that be young/be weak when meet virus bird flu in air/oxygen/climate then make infect with can easily.
For task find virus aforementioned that expect that will not affect exporting chicken cook anyway because preceding Thailand can there is task report against organization international always but exporting chicken be fresh/live that might must [?] be long go out like to be no specification because previously by faculty deed EU just [?] task import chicken fresh/live from Thailand go out like to be no specification and will there is meeting for consider is end of year 2550 (2007).
M.R. [name] say that previously by ministry farmland cannont/did not suppress news anyhow thought will there is patient suspected place Phichit previously much cases already no matter but result diagnose from laboratory all patient and chicken place suspected previously not find virus anyhow.
Area Chief [name] Thailand director-general Department of Livestock say that result task inspect aforementioned succeed task inspect be quiet start also method RT-PCR which confirm that is virus bird flu type H5 and power to be among inspect claim is N type any/which in order that office/bureau domestic animal/livestock province Phichit get inform data task find virus bird flu aforementioned opposed to public health province Phichit already for watch be on the lookout for in person continually.
Find person infect with suspected 2 cases
Situation bird flu place Phichit also should worry about find patient suspected infect with increase again/more 2 cases when domestical animal province announce area home olive group 11 basically place red back find virus H5N1 in chicken domestic.
Doctor female [name] director hospital Phichit disclose that yesterday this (24 July) receive patient suspected infected with bird flu increase more amount 2 cases is man Thai age 26 year from district Dta Paan Hin and female Thai age 34 year from district Baang Moon Naak.
Patient both cases suspected that infected with bird flu is there is symptom fever high cough ache muscle breathe fatigued and there is history touch chicken domestic that one by one die amount 40 bodies already catch carcass chicken too much bury destroy include bring carcass chicken place die come cook/prepare eat later again 2-3 days also die sick put down.
(repeat of previous article...)
Department control disease send team down Phichit
[Name?] director-general department control disease say that in case of ministry farmland declare that find virus measure bird in poultry place province Phichit that until at present (24 July) ask for assure that also not find patient infected with bird flu anyhow and patient that there is symptom resemble bird flu that spread in much province that from result virus also not find virus bird flu include patient cases lately 2 cases that is man age 39 year and 59 year from hospital ทับคล้อ that analysis result virus also not find virus bird flu but is virus influenza ordinary only.
"Receive report from Department of Livestock that find chicken infected with bird flu place district Baang Moon Naak province Phichit which I can offer/permit [?] rumor cover up [?] deputy director department control disease and [?] figure/count be silent raise power director institute epidemiology bring together with provincial governor Phichit and institute in area and prepare team investigate disease from center down go enhance tea investigate disease in area in order that happen strictness increase," [name] say.
For task control task spread of bird flu in person that by Ministry of Public Health look after method strict according to strategy that set down keep by will think provided that find chicken die unusual in area any permit manage likewise that chicken land die is bird flu for keep an eye on be careful task infected with in person because do not have to wait for result examine analyze virus from laboratory but seize/sequester safety of person mainly.
Re: THAILAND [Phichit] - [Three] Several new suspected cases in Phichit
Originally posted by Niman
An 11-year-old girl was in a Pichit hospital on Monday with flu-like symptoms after chickens died on her family farm, a doctor told Reuters. Test results are due on Tuesday.
"The chickens started to die on July 8 and she helped her mother bury the dead chickens without any protective gear...."
Wild speculation: the 34F from Bangmunnak who disposed of her dead chickens is the mother of the 11F. Do we know where exactly in Phichit the girl is from -- like which village?
Like I said, wild speculation -- I have nothing to base this on -- just a hunch.
...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes
Re: THAILAND [Phichit] - [Three] Several new suspected cases in Phichit
Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister Khunying Sudarat Keyuraphan said on Monday that the ministry had ordered a total ban on importing poultry from any neighbouring country to prevent the outbreak of bird flu.
The ban was imposed after some neighbouring countries sent dead fowl samples for laboratory tests in Thailand and some samples tested positive for the virus.
Ain't they s'posed to report this to the OIE...?
...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes
Re: THAILAND [Phichit] - [Three] Several new suspected cases in Phichit
Originally posted by Theresa42
Ain't they s'posed to report this to the OIE...?
It's the duty of those countries to report, not Thailand's duty. We could always encourage it, though, by asking Dr. Niman to ask his friend Dr. Dudley to forward the article to Promed . That would get people's attention. Wink wink.
Re: THAILAND [Phichit] - [Three] Several new suspected cases in Phichit
Originally posted by vaffie
It's the duty of those countries to report, not Thailand's duty. We could always encourage it, though, by asking Dr. Niman to ask his friend Dr. Dudley to forward the article to Promed . That would get people's attention. Wink wink.
Yes -- when I said "they" I meant the country/countries which had birds that tested positive -- shoulda made myself more clear.
Gee. Who could it be? Burma/Myanmar? Laos?? Cambodia??? Hmmmmm....
...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes
Re: THAILAND [Phichit] - [Three] Several new suspected cases in Phichit
Originally posted by Theresa42
Yes -- when I said "they" I meant the country/countries which had birds that tested positive -- shoulda made myself more clear.
Gee. Who could it be? Burma/Myanmar? Laos?? Cambodia??? Hmmmmm....
It's a good question. I'll tell you what I think.
The relationship between Thailand and Myanmar is a little murky, though it's slowly improving. Myanmar is on everyone in ASEAN's black list and they scolded it strongly recently for it's lack of a democracy. You will recall that when Myanmar wanted to test for bird flu, it didn't send it's dead chickens to Thailand but to Australia, so though highly possible in desperate times such as now, I wouldn't exactly bet on Myanmar--though it is pretty obvious that they've had big outbreaks in the very recent past, so it certainly wouldn't surprise me if they're still having them now, especially in the poorly educated and controlled border areas with Thailand, and Thailand knows about it and is refusing their poultry too.
In regard to Cambodia, they do not have a very good healthcare system, to put it mildly, and as a result, those bird flu victims in the past who were healthy enough to walk all the way into Vietnam were the only ones tested there and found to be positive. Most of the testing therefore in Cambodia previously has been done in Vietnam. This year, though, the Pasteur Institute in Phnom Penh was able to do the testing and found kids and chickens infected back in March, so they have the ability now, and might not need Thailand's help unless they had a massive number of poultry deaths, which is likely considering that two of the Thai provinces (that we know about by name) with widescale poultry deaths neighbor northern Cambodia.
Vietnam, needless to say, has the testing ability (but no longer the will to report).
Lastly, is the extremely poor country of Laos, whose biggest financial backer is Thailand. Considering they already reported a couple months ago that ducks in Vientane had bird flu, and that five of Thailand's seriously infected provinces (that we know about by name) border Laos (from the northernmost point to the southernmost point), it is very likely that this is definitely one of the 'neighbors' with the infected birds, but because of the close relationship that the two countries have, Thailand does not wish to reveal it openly.
Isn't it unusual for CIDRAP (Osterholm's org) to come out with this kind of commentary in this kind of detail??? It seems to be more warning than I've seen from them before. Maybe it's just my current perspective...
Originally posted by Theresa42
Thailand faces renewed avian flu fight
Jul 24, 2006 (CIDRAP News) ? Thailand is facing its first outbreak of H5N1 avian influenza in birds in 8 months, along with flu-like illnesses in a number of people in areas with sick birds, according to news services.
Thai agriculture officials said the virus was identified in a fighting cock from the northern province of Phichit, the Bangkok Post reported in a story published late today. The dead bird was from Bang Mun Nak district, where almost 300 birds were culled after the mysterious deaths of about 30 poultry 2 weeks ago, the story said.
The confirmation came shortly after poultry farmers and a senator accused the agriculture ministry of covering up the re-emergence of the disease following "massive deaths of poultry in many provinces" starting early in July, the newspaper reported.
Earlier today, the Thai newspaper The Nation said Agriculture Minister Sudarat Keyuraphan confirmed that 20 samples of dead fighting birds from Phichit had tested positive for avian flu, according to a report today by The Nation. Agence France-Press (AFP) quoted him as saying the virus was an H5 strain, but it was not yet known if it was H5N1.
Sudarat said the virus was detected in imported chickens, and he announced a ban on poultry imports, The Nation reported. To contain the outbreak, he said, officials have imposed quarantine near where the birds died and have prohibited the transport of birds.
Two other provinces, Phitsanulok and Uttaradit, also are reporting suspicious poultry deaths, The Nation said.
Meanwhile, a number of suspected human cases of avian flu have been reported. A United Press International report published 2 days ago said local news media were reporting that two sisters, aged 3 and 4, were in a Phichit hospital with suspected avian flu and that lab results were expected by July 27.
Today The Nation reported that three other patients were hospitalized in Phichit: two men, aged 59 and 86, and a 7-year-old boy. All three were reported to have had contact with dead chickens. Also, a Reuters report said an 11-year-old girl with flu-like symptoms was being treated in a Phichit hospital after chickens died on her family's farm.
In addition, a report yesterday in The Nation said two men, aged 67 and 35, were hospitalized in Uttaradit Provincial Hospital with avian flu?like symptoms that developed after they ate spotted doves. The report said blood samples were taken for testing at a nearby laboratory.
Fifteen other patients, two of them from Phichit, had been on a watch list for suspected avian influenza but were removed after tests came back negative, The Nation reported today. But the disease has not been ruled out in a 5-year-old boy from Phitsanulok, and Uttaradit province has three patients with flu-like symptoms, the story said.
Thailand has not had a confirmed human H5N1 case since last December. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the country had 17 human cases with 12 deaths in 2004. Five more cases, two of them fatal, occurred in 2005.
Sudarat, the Thai agriculture minister, had said on Jul 6 that he hoped the country would be entirely free of avian flu within 3 years. At that point there had been no outbreaks in 239 days, he said.
Re: THAILAND [Phichit] - [Three] Several new suspected cases in Phichit
What did I say, Theresa!?! Didn't I say Laos, Laos, Laos! Look at this breaking article! If Laos is indeed beginning to get hit hard by this virus, which looks very likely now, considering that it's a sliver of a country next to the sliver of Vietnam, we may be hearing serious reports from Vietnam within a matter of 10-20 days. Please keep an eye out for the initial reports. In fact, this report from northern Vietnam from 2 weeks ago may just be that first warning:
‘Mystery disease' not as mysterious
A senior health official said Saturday that the three deaths and nine hospitalizations previously associated with a “mysterious disease” in a central Vietnamese village may not be linked at all.
Rumors of a mysterious disease started to spread the last several days in Thanh Hoa province’s Cam Thuy district after an 11 year-old girl, a middle-aged man and his mother died, and nine others from a small village were hospitalized for headaches, limb numbness, and chest pains.
However, Nguyen Ngoc Thanh, deputy director of the province’s health department confirmed the middle-aged man died of high blood pressure, his mother of grief from her son’s death and the others have been hospitalized due to insecticide exposure.
Thanh said that farmers’ overuse of insecticides and herbicides in recent years has contaminated some of the local water supply and crops.
The only mystery belongs to the 11-year-old girl, whose death has not been confirmed due to the lack of medical files and a post-mortem analysis as she was not taken to any heath center during her ‘illness’.
HANOI, July 25 (Xinhua) -- The Lao government has recently urged local sectors and people nationwide to prevent potential bird flu outbreaks more actively, according to reports reaching here from Laos' news agency KPL Tuesday.
Under a directive issued by Lao Prime Minister Bouasone Bouphavanh, organizations and individuals in the country, especially state agencies at both central and local levels, should make greater efforts to combat bird flu which may hit some localities in the near future.
Laos' National Committee for Avian Influenza Prevention has recently built up a national strategy on preventing and battling the disease. Funds for the strategy's implementation are being mobilized.
Bird flu has not yet stricken Laos, but it may occur in some areas, the directive quoted a report of the World Health Organization (WHO) as saying.
A total of 231 human cases of bird flu infections, including 133 fatalities, have been confirmed in 10 countries, since 2003, according to a statement of the WHO posted on its website on July 20. Countries with high numbers of fatalities include Vietnam with 42, Indonesia with 42 and Thailand with 14. Enditem
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