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  • Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

    This story is from June 15th, but I don't recall hearing anything about these kids before [see the end of the article]. Adtya died -- not clear if s/he was tested. Rizal reportedly tested negative....

    toggletext-ed from Indonesian:

    Tulungagung Proclaim combatted Bird Flu
    June 15, 2006

    TULUNGAGUNG, 15 Juni: Totalling 1.084 officials of the vaccine (vaksinator) in Tulungagung, East Java, since Thursday (15/6) was mobilised all through the village in 19 subdistricts in this area. They were assigned to give the vaccine took the form of the liquid antivirus bird flu or avian influenza (AI) for approximately 1 million poultries in Tulungagung.

    The section head Danduk Sudarham Livestock Breeding when being found by several reporters in his office, on Thursday, said the mobilisation vaksinator large-scale this as the maximal form of the Tulungagung Regional Government to combat the distribution of the AI virus that turn off more than 5.000 poultries.

    "This the solidest program namely the AI eradication of one million poultries. His main target poultry livestock breeding belonging to the citizen in the settlement or often was acknowledged as the poultry in the IV sector," said Danduk.

    From the total 1.5 million poultries in Tulungagung Danduk words, around 1 million poultries in small livestock breeding that often was acknowledged as the people's livestock breeding.

    The section head the Health of the Animal of the Service of Nugraha Siswantara Livestock Breeding said vaksinator 90 more was taken from the citizen and village equipment who were trained by the Livestock Breeding Service.

    "If the power from the clear livestock breeding service was not enough, lagian the citizen and village equipment more understood his target of the citizen's poultry," said Nugraha.

    The AI eradication program totalling 1 million poultries it was estimated took place for a week in the future. Further this program will continue for the breeder bigger.

    As is known Tulungagung became one of the endemic areas of bird flu. The Media's Indonesian note mentioned in 2003 - 2004 at least 300 thousand livestock, especially the chicken in the area died and were destroyed because of being affected by AI.

    Later since the last month again was found by thousands of livestock died suddenly, especially in the Boyolangu Subdistrict. The concern would the AI danger increasingly big after two older brothers were siblings from the Sukowiyono Village, the Karangrejo Subdistrict, namely Adtya, 11 months and Rizal, 7, was run off with to the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) Dr Iskak because diindikasi suspect bird flu.

    Aditya had finally died after experiencing the high fever, coughs as well as breathless. Whereas Rizal could be treated for a week because of the similar sign.

    Later after being done by the verification of the sample of blood in RSU Dr Soetomo Surabaya for the time being Rizal the AI virus negative.


    ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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    More on Rizal...

    An old story on Rizal who is from Tulungagung, East Java. Rizal reportedly tested negative in the end [see above post], although his brother died of...? Note that the 5 yr-old confirmed by the WHO today as having been infected with H5N1 was also from Tulungagung. No indications yet if these three children are related.

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    The Rizal Turun Lab test
    June 10, 2006


    Today, Terifeksi AI or not?

    TULUNGAGUNG- Rizal Prasdana Effendi Fate would diketahaui today. Was the child 7 years really old was infected by the bird flu virus, like that was expected uptil now. Or not.

    That because of results of the laboratory about the test of the child's blood that lived in the Budget Village [Dusun Bujet], the Sukowiyono Village, the Karangrejo Subdistrict, will descend today [June 10].

    The test Aditya Bima Syahputra of blood of the deceased's older brother (died it was suspected was infected by the bird flu virus) was done in Hong Kong. The taking sempel Rizal blood was done in the last three days.


    Results of the laboratory test to determine the step penangganan medical for Rizal furthermore. If being stated by the negative or being not infected by the virus H5NI (the other term bird flu), the child of three of the couples Ingsun and Yayuk was permitted to come home. On the other hand, if being stated positive was infected by bird flu, then he must get the further maintenance in RSUD Dr Soetomo, Surabaya.

    Including handling the families that notabene one house with Rizal while settling in the Sukowiyono Village, the Karangrejo Subdistrict.

    The assurance was produced by the sample test of blood belonging to Rizal revealed by RSUD public relations Dr Iskak Tulungagung Tri Widyo Agus Basuki yesterday. According to him, anything results of the sample of the hospital side continue to revered. "Has been said by me from long before, that had the right to break (was infected by the bird flu virus or not) that Surabaya (after getting results of the laboratory in Hong Kong). Not from the hospital here. If from the hospital side hoped Rizal did not contract bird flu," said Oki, the nickname of Tri Widyo Agus Basuki was experienced in his office.

    As being reported in this newspaper, the Big Hall the Health Laboratory (BBLK) Surabaya sent one of his medical officials, Aris Wiji Utami to Tulungagung. That is took sample blood and the Rizal nasal mucus liquid that it was supposed strong at contracting bird flu.

    Rizal experienced the high fever, that diidentikan with the bird flu attack. The sample of blood was the test to know whether someone was infected by bird flu or not.

    In another place, up until yesterday the Rizal condition it was reported improved from the previous day. The temperature of the body has also begun to descend. Only, Rizal continued to complain coughs and the coldness. This sign was ascertained not from bird flu, but the condition for the room. His article, the Rizal room that was used for the isolation was supplemented with Conditioner Water (AC) with consideration of the health. "The possibility of the coughs was caused by him did not feel at home with AC," guessed Oki.

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    ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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      Re: Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

      Ah, makes sense. This wasn't a bird flu cluster, it was an air conditioning cluster.

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        Re: Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

        Originally posted by vaffie
        Ah, makes sense. This wasn't a bird flu cluster, it was an air conditioning cluster.

        LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL

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          Re: Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

          Originally posted by vaffie
          Ah, makes sense. This wasn't a bird flu cluster, it was an air conditioning cluster.
          Just crazy, huh?
          ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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            More on Aditya & Rizal and the situation in Tulungagung

            More on Aditya & Rizal and the situation in Tulungagung (from June 26th)...

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            Saw the Condition for the Citizen Sukowiyono Post rumours of the Attack of the Bird Flu Virus
            June 26, 2006


            Still Many chickens that died, the Citizen Continue To Maspada the Budget Village [Dusun Bujet], the Sukowiyono Village, the Karangrejo Subdistrict, Tulungagung, had become the gossip because of the assumption of the virus attack avian influenza (AI). Thank heavens, results of the research stated this village the bird flu negative. How the condition for the citizen around?

            Abdul Aziz, the Tulungagung Radar.

            ---

            A woman checked the chicken nest that have material straw. Clear crossed from his face if he hoped found the egg. But unfortunately his hope disappeared. Evidently, his chicken did not lay eggs.

            "Did not know why, since the incident around 100 chickens that died, how come was difficult to lay eggs. What's up ok?" Female words that was named Sriamah.

            Yesterday Sriamah relaxed in his [her] house. Since having the bird flu news in his village, himself could be anxious. Moreover, three days did not touch his property chicken coop.

            How not, an ages himself just first saw his approximately 10 property chicks died suddenly. Without the clear reason. "And so I did not dare to go to the chicken coop," said the woman 63 years.

            The news of the attack of the bird flu virus then canned be heard. Moreover, there was a pre-schooler who died with the sign was proper for the AI virus attack. He was Bima Aditya Saputra, 10 months.

            A day later the turn the older brother that entered the hospital, Rizal Prasdana Efendi, 7. His sign was almost same. The cough, pilek, was accompanied by the high fever. Was lucky, the official of the Big Hall the Health Laboratory (BBLK) Surabaya immediately preceptive. He took the sample of blood as well as nasal mucus (swap) Rizal. Also the sample of Yayuk blood (your mother Rizal and Bima), and his grandfather.

            Results very pleasing. There was no bird flu virus! Or negative bird flu.
            The news was welcomed happy by villagers Sukowiyono. His article, there was no deadly virus attack in dusu him.

            "How did not worry, well wong the sudden death." Moreover, several of his chickens also died suddenly, said the woman with loga Java thick this.

            Particularly after Rizal came home from the hospital healthily. The illness that was suffered by him evidently only pnemounie or the normal fever.

            In the meantime, Supardi tried to continue to be on the alert related the virus AI. Especially respond to about chickens that died suddenly. As you know, until this his neighbour was still coming across the chicken that died without being known by his cause. The everyday man bekarja in the paddy-field, still was reluctant to eat chicken. But that not for the chicken egg, he still want to consumed, although some eggs were sold as the replacement of rice.

            Supardi also ask for to the government to proaktif with the inhabitants Sukowiyono. "If having the possibility of bird flu of spreading humankind, was hoped for as soon as possible informed." In this way could do the prevention, said the father of three children.

            Then how the Yayuk condition? Your mother Rizal and (alm) Aditya Bima Syahputra was in his house that appear before to the east. Often did not say that left the female lip that had the original name Sri this Well-being. Only, he stayed grateful could gather with Rizal again.

            It was related that bird flu, the wife from Ingsun this too much did not care. Medical proof has proven if his child not tertular bird flu, only normal fever illnesses. Moreover, in his age that step on 50 that did still not understand concerning bird flu. "That I knew, my child only was affected by the normal fever," he said short.

            ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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              Re: Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

              Hooray! Chickens dead. Kid dead. Brother better. But tests negative!!! This family apparently had uncomfortable air conditioning setting. And also, by the way, don't worry about that kid with confirmed bird flu from this village too. We don't even know who that is! Silly boy, probably doesn't know how to operate air conditioning settings either! Who's the Who anyway? Get it? Good one! Let's celebrate. Eat eggs! Hooray! We have killed bird flu!
              [[Insert mandatory conclusion paragraph written in 1998 in order to educate the public: Scientists believe that bird flu might some time in the next fifty years evolve into a strain that transmits human to human. This could happen if a pig catches it. So far, none of this has happened fortunately, and people only catch the virus if they continuously kiss their roosters--according to our Vietnamese expert. If a pandemic happens, several million people could die.]]

              Results very pleasing. There was no bird flu virus! Or negative bird flu. The news was welcomed happy by villagers Sukowiyono. His article, there was no deadly virus attack in dusu him.

              "How did not worry, well wong the sudden death." Moreover, several of his chickens also died suddenly, said the woman with loga Java thick this.

              Particularly after Rizal came home from the hospital healthily. The illness that was suffered by him evidently only pnemounie or the normal fever.
              Last edited by Sharpe; July 3, 2006, 01:30 PM.

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                Re: Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

                Oh, I know, I know. That's why I said it was an air conditioning cluster. To quote the writer, 'evidently'!!! As soon as they lowered the temperature of the room, the high fever and shortness of breath of the boy went away. It makes perfect sense. It just goes to show--the next worst thing to a pandemic virus is an air-conditioning pandemic! God help us all! A 50% lethality rate too! And with the exact same symptoms! Even kills chickens too.

                [[Insert mandatory conclusion paragraph written in 1998 in order to educate the public: Scientists believe that bird flu might some time in the next fifty years evolve into a strain that transmits human to human. This could happen if a pig catches it. So far, none of this has happened fortunately, and people only catch the virus if they continuously kiss their roosters--according to a Vietnamese expert. If a pandemic happens, several million people could die.]]

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                  Re: Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

                  Yes, the reporting continues to be absurd. The obligatory chicken connection is made, yet the real data shows no link between the vast majority of human cases (which are the green names in the lower branch of this tree)

                  http://www.recombinomics.com/phylo/Indo_Karo_HA1.html

                  which have an RESRRKKR cleavage site, and the bird sequences in Indonesia (which are in black and NOT in the lower branch of the tree). Thus, other than the Karo cluster and the second confirmed case, all other human isolates from Indonesia do NOT match bird isolates (from Indonesia or anywhere else). This includes a recent case in EAST java.

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                    Re: Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

                    dr. niman
                    nice to see you here and have the opportunity to discuss this with you, finally. I'd appreciate your take on this.

                    ok. let me be sure i have this straight. that this is what the sequencing info for the Indonesia cases telling is us. that the virus originated in another animal (swine? or whatever), before it infected birds and humans. right? and that the original virus has continued to circulate, and it must be transmitted by other means than the birds. that in Indo up to now, this has likely been a h-h, or pig(?)-h, though not a very virulant virus, unless that's just due to under-reporting. (low death rate, misdiagnosis) And....not only are we dealing with this first virus now causing the clusters in Indo, but the second one, which had taken off with the birds, is now responsible for similar infection in other areas of the planet. If that's the case, what a potential nightmare! We're aware of the birds. What is the vector of the other virus? what is your take if the two virii should meet again? just another crap shoot?....oh sorry, we were using *shuffle* weren't we?
                    thank you ~T

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                      Re: Indonesia - Adtya & Rizal [siblings] - bf suspects from East Java

                      The first H5N1 sequences reported in Indonesia were in birds in 2003. The first human reported case was about a year ago. All of the H5N1's are Indonesian, but the majority of human cases involve an H5N1 not found in birds.

                      There are no clear infections of humans by birds. The only two clusters with H5N1 that matches birds may have been indirectly infected by a source such as plant fertilizer.

                      The only matches of sources of human infections have been human relatives and one cat.

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