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Old December 30th, 2007, 08:05 AM
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Protective effect of low-concentration
chlorine dioxide gas against
influenza A virus infection

http://www.sgm.ac.uk/jgvdirect/83393/83393ft.pdf

mice were protected from H5N1 infection through aerosoles by simultaneous exposure to
extremely low dose of chlorine dioxyde gas


apparantly there are bathroom air-freshening products using
chlorine dioxide gas against odors. These should also be effective
against flu-viruses ?!?


http://www.freshpatents.com/Method-o...pe=description


m ... found this:

MMS-ebay

...chlorine dioxide, in quantities small enough to be safely ingested,
and large enough to kill pathogens that are presently living in our body...

doesn't sound very scientific from a gold-miner,
but you got the idea

http://www.healthsalon.org/376/mms-discussion-forums/

careful about heart-side effects:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...sodium&lnk=nl&


some more links, I can't check this now, but maybe someone
is interested and can report.


http://www.lenntech.com/water-disinf...ne-dioxide.htm
Cl2O is 8* more expensive than chlorine

chlorine dioxide generating sachet, low, medium, or high release, for 30 min, 1, 2, and 3 h.

The delivery system for chlorine dioxide is becoming more efficient as well. Fresh-cut processors and researchers are now able to use sachet-type chlorine dioxide generators that are easy to use and safer to transport. The dry sachet creates a chlorine dioxide gas or a gas stabilized in water by mixing a package of sodium chlorite with an acidic activator. Another type of sachet generator works like a teabag in water. The bag “steeps” in tap water for six to 12 hours to create the predetermined concentration of chlorine dioxide in water.


http://www.freshcut.com/pages/arts.php?ns=416

http://www.freshpatents.com/Method-o...pe=description

http://www.hebry.com.cn/gyry_english.asp


Hmmm... at least one source which seems legit has done some toxicity research:

http://therichtercenter.com/karch.html


I had thought, it did kill the viruses right in the air ?!?

do people living near paper bleeching factories get fewer
influenza than average ?


let me speculate a bit...

could seasonality of influenza maybe be explained with concentration
of some virus-destructive gases in the atmosphere ?

chlorine dioxide depends on sunlight, also boiling point=11°,
UV may play a role, all seasonal and longitude-dependent

could we produce enough ClO2 to fill the atmosphere
to kill the viruses ? would that be dangerous for ozone ?
Well, probably not the whole atmosphere but maybe
valleys,cities,buildings,trains,..

are there ClO2-generating air-freshening machines ?
could be better than UV or HEPA or ionizers.




I found the full paper here:
http://www.sgm.ac.uk/jgvdirect/83393/83393ft.pdf


the ClO2-molecules enter the droplets in the air, dissolve and attack the virus.
However, what happens if the airosoles have dried and the viruses are moving in the air as
singles or as clumps ? After some minutes, I assume most droplets have dried.

In theory it could also be that the ClO2 enters the mouse-lung-tissue, dissolves
and forms a protective solution which kills the viruses before they can enter
a cell.



Norio Ogata said:

Yes, your question is quite interesting and is very important. I should have done that kind of experiment. I did not do the experiment to prove, positive or negagtive, the possibility whether ClO2 can really protect "cells" from virus infection by first treat cultured cells, wash out ClO2 and then add virus as you point out.
The reason that I thought that virus was inactivated in the aerosols, not in the mice, is that in my previous work (paper attached), ClO2 inactivated proteins withinin a minute, and is "cosumed" by the reaction. Therefore, there is no ClO2 remaining in the reaction mixture after the reaction when ClO2 concentration is very low (see Fig.4, Fig. 5 and Table 3 of the attached paper). Anyway I should do the experiment that you pointed out.
There is no problem at all that you post my reply to the bird flu forum


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for chlorine dioxide:

http://planforpandemic.com/viewtopic.php?t=11915


here is a video of a presentation of a device by Ogata at the
6th Birdflu summit in Bali March 2008:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXGfsjnJLM


products:
http://www.seirogan.co.jp/english/index2.html
[click products , infection control products]

http://cgi.k3.shigaplaza.or.jp/en/in...?act=dtl&id=13

it is offered for sale e.g. here:
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/kenkoudo/4987110010166/



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http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc21.htm

so, these early reported therapeutic effects of ClO2 on influenza
by Vedder,Sawyer,Gilchrist,...
apparantly were not confirmed later and ClO2 hadn't been
used for influenza therapy.






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6.1.1.3. Respiratory diseases

As early as 1816, Wallace suggested that chlorine might have
medical applications; and in 1833, Bourgeois was reported to have
used it successfully in the treatment of tuberculosis (Gilchrist,
1924). During the latter part of the nineteenth century and the
first decades of the twentieth century, there were sporadic reports
of the therapeutic effects of chlorine. Baskerville (1919) was of
the opinion that small amounts of chlorine decreased the incidence
of respiratory disease among workers. Vedder & Sawyer (1924)
reported that chlorine inhalations were used in 1915 in Germany, to
clear meningococcus and diphtheria carriers, and in 1918 in the
USA as a treatment for influenza. They conducted a series of

studies based on clinical observations that workers at a war gas
production plant did not suffer from influenza during the great
epidemic. They found that cultures of a variety of bacterial
agents were effectively destroyed by exposure to chlorine at
concentrations of 21 mg/m3 of air (0.021 mg/litre, 7.2 ppm), a
level they considered well within the limit of safety for human
exposure. The bactericidal action was reported to be greater in
vivo. A 1-h exposure to 20 mg/m3 of air (6.9 ppm) effectively
sterilized the tonsillar, postnasal, and pharyngeal surfaces of one
subject, and a level of 15 mg/m3 (0.015 mg/litre, 5.2 ppm) cured or
produced clinical improvement in 95% of a series of 931 patients
suffering from a variety of respiratory tract infections. In a
follow-up series of 93 patients with coryza, acute bronchitis,
chronic bronchitis, or influenza, 100% were reportedly cured or
improved.

The therapeutic effects of chlorine were further discussed by
Gilchrist (1924). During World War I, medical officers assigned to
the front lines observed an apparent immunity to influenza in their
troops. They attributed this lack of susceptibility to the disease
to chlorine exposure and therefore used chlorine to treat respiratory
diseases. Following these observations and the work of Vedder &
Sawyer, Gilchrist constructed an inhalation chamber and treated
some 900 patients with chlorine. Those with infectious diseases
tended to show improvement; those with asthma or hay fever did not.
He was of the opinion that 1-h exposures to levels sufficient to
produce mild irritation of the throat and eyes were the most
efficacious.

While the results of these controlled therapeutic inhalations
appear dramatic, the studies of both Vedder & Sawyer and Gilchrist
were conducted without unexposed comparison groups. In Gilchrist's
study, no attempt was made to document disease at the onset or to
evaluate its evolution medically. The patients came with their own
diagnosis and reported the outcome.

Though these studies reflect an interesting and historical
hypothesis for the medical application of chlorine, experience has
not provided justification for its practical use in this context.
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On some of the ships, in 1918, inhalation chambers were used; they referred to the *zinc sulfate method*. So far, that's the only reference I've seen to that method.

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this all had been abandonned, no such usages today.
They must have their reasons
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20616431


chlorine dioxide gas solution(CD) at concentrations ranging
from 1 to 100 ppm produced potent antiviral activity,
inactivating >/= 99.9% of the viruses with a 15 sec
treatment for sensitization. The antiviral activity
of CD was approximately10 times higher than that of SH.
(sodium hypochlorite )
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there is a product called "Jim Humble MMS" which you shall swallow
and produces chlorine dioxide when activated

there seems to be a problem with side-effects

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement
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