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  • #31
    Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

    Originally posted by Dark Horse View Post
    One of the news articles mentioned that his co-workers had seen the man walking with a cane once and awhile. That fits with gout. My father had gout and when he had an attack, he had to walk with a cane to keep painful pressure off his foot.
    I see.

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    • #32
      Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

      Probenecid is listed as a medication to treat gout.

      Also mentioned here

      <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Pharmacokinetics and Tolerability of Oseltamivir (Tamiflu?) Combined with Probenecid http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72300

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      • #33
        Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

        New York City closing 3 more schools

        NEW YORK -- Three more schools are closed for 5 days, bringing the total to six due to the Swine Flu scare.
        JHS 74Q (Nathanial Hawthorne School, 1021 students) in Bayside: 26 students with documented flu-like symptoms.
        P.S. 107Q (Thomas A. Dooley, 891 students) in Flushing: Flu-like symptoms were documented as being persistently high this week and 49 students were documented with flu-like symptoms.
        I.S. 318K (Eugenio Maria De Hostos, 1517 students) in Williamsburg: 53 students were documented with flu-like symptoms this week.

        "Despite the significant disruption this causes, the Health Department has recommended closing these schools to reduce the spread of influenza," said Health Commissioner Frieden. "We are continuing to carefully monitor H1N1 virus throughout the City, and are taking action again today because there are unusually high and increasing levels of flu-like illnesses at these three public schools."

        "We are closing three schools today after close consultation with the Health Department," said Chancellor Klein. "School closures are a difficult decision, but our first priority is the health of our students. We will continue to work side by side with the Health Commissioner and his staff to ensure that we keep New York City public schools safe and healthy for our students," said Chancellor Klein.

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        • #34
          Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

          Swine flu concerns close three more schools Friday,
          May 15, 2009 | 4:46 PM





          Quote from this article:


          The mayor said the assistant principal, Mitch Wiener, may have had pre-existing health problems - but on Friday, Wiener's son Adam said his father had only suffered previously from gout, which he said was unrelated to his current condition. He said his 55-year-old father is now suffering from kidney failure, dehydration and a lung infection.

          "I don't know where people got that," Adam Wiener, 23, said Friday morning as he prepared to return to the hospital where the family was keeping vigil.
          "The only pre-existing condition he has is gout, which is unrelated to complications he's experienced now."

          Adam Wiener said his father had been sick since at least last weekend with flu-like symptoms "but we didn't think anything of it." Then early Wednesday, he said, the family called 911 after his father began "hallucinating and wasn't coherent."Wiener's case marks the most severe illness in the city since the city's first known cases of swine flu appeared in late April.

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          • #35
            Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

            Originally posted by thebes View Post
            Gout is a metabolic disorder - antibodies aren't involved in the process. Now, and this is purely speculative, he could've been on steroids which decrease his immune response, but to say that gout alone gives him a "pre-existing condition" that makes him more susceptible to complications is ridiculous.
            You're correct. Oral steroids are rarely prescribed for gout. Occasional cortisone injection in a joint for recalcitrant flareups, but not oral meds. Even if oral meds were prescribed, it would be a short term dose pak.

            (One gout med, probenecid, is even being discussed for co treatment with Tamiflu.)

            There is no reasonable medical link between gout and influenza to my knowledge. This is one of the more ridiculous claims I've seen during the whole swine H1N1 media barrage.

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            • #36
              Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

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              • #37
                Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

                the family called 911 after his father began "hallucinating and wasn't coherent"

                Are we looking at effects on the central nervous system? rather than effect of high fever?

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                • #38
                  Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

                  the family called 911 after his father began "hallucinating and wasn't coherent"

                  Are we looking at effects on the central nervous system? rather than effect of high fever?
                  Hallucinations and incoherence can be seen in delirium which can be a nonspecific complication of high fever or impaired breathing (hypoxia).
                  JT
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                  • #39
                    Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

                    Originally posted by Thornton View Post
                    Hallucinations and incoherence can be seen in delirium which can be a nonspecific complication of high fever or impaired breathing (hypoxia).
                    JT



                    Thank you.

                    There just seems to be considerable disparity in re: observable/ reported symptoms between those presenting with the "mild" flu and those presenting with the "severe" flu leading to pneumonia/ or pneumonia-like and death. Yet, there seems to be great disparity also re: "pre-existing conditions" for those who have died with H1N1. Is it possible that increased virulence is a viable factor? Or would that have been picked up through the sequencing?

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                    • #40
                      Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

                      Hallucinations and incoherence can be seen in delirium which can be a nonspecific complication of high fever or impaired breathing (hypoxia).
                      It can also occur in brain involvement.

                      Also can occur with ARDS, even when fever and hypoxia are already controlled. Had it happen to me, and its a very wild thing.

                      High dose steroids can cause it, but IMHO very unikely in this case since it was a presenting symptom. Was not unusual with ARDS pts when we were stuffing them with steroids before they were found to be a problem.
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                      • #41
                        Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

                        Source: http://www.wpix.com/news/local/wpix-...,3295824.story
                        (Note: Use link above to access video)

                        New Experimental Treatment Being Used to Help Critical Swine Flu Patient
                        The device, about the size of a printer, is called a Hemo-Modulator, currently an experimental treatment for those suffering from HIV and Hepatitis C.

                        BY ARTHUR CHI'EN| wpix.com

                        May 15, 2009
                        NEW YORK (WPIX) - "Obviously he's in a desperate situation." Thomas Fagan, the President of the New Jersey based company Energex, was candid tonight about being called in to treat Swine Flu patient Mitch Wiener, an Assistant Principal whose school has 4 other confirmed H1N1 cases and has been closed down by city officials.

                        The device, about the size of a printer, is called a Hemo-Modulator, currently an experimental treatment for those suffering from HIV and Hepatitis C. We first told you about the device in a special report on the PIX News at Ten more than a year ago. The Hemo-Modulator extracts a small amount of blood from the patient and exposes it to an exact amount of ultra-violent light. Researches believe the ultra-violet light deactivates the virus, after which the blood is returned to the patient's body. The idea of the treatment is to convert the blood to a personal vaccine, stimulating the patient's immune system and allowing it to fight back.

                        The device have been successful in animal testing, although there's no way to predict how that will translate into human clinical results.

                        Shortly after 5pm today, Fagan arrived at Flushing Hospital where Wiener is being kept alive on a ventilator. Wheeling in a Hemo-Modulator, he first met with the assistant principal's family. They quickly okayed the experimental treatment. Sources tell Ch11 to temper expectations however, considering the patient now suffers from an array of complications including kidney failure and pneumonia.

                        Fagan says it will take about a day to see if the treatment is helping Wiener. We will keep you posted.

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                        • #42
                          Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

                          Does anyone know - would it be standard procedure for the family to wear full body protection or does this indicate they might be more worried about Mr. Weiner's particular virus?



                          A Queens assistant principal who nearly died from the swine flu showed "slight improvement" overnight as his tormented family maintained a vigil at his hospital bedside.

                          "Nothing has gotten worse," Adam Wiener, 23, the eldest son of beloved teacher Mitchell Wiener said Saturday. "There is reason to hope."

                          Mitchell Wiener, a 31-year teaching veteran assigned to Intermediate School 238 in Queens, remained unconscious for a third day at Flushing Hospital.

                          Wiener, who became incoherent after his fever spiked, arrived at the facility Wednesday morning.

                          His wife, Bonnie, along with twin sons Farrell and Jordan, stayed with the 55-year-old all night in his room, according to Adam Wiener.

                          The family was forced to wear full-body protective suits to avoid contamination by the virus.

                          IS 238 is one of a half-dozen city school shut down Thursday and Friday over concerns of the spreading swine flu, although city officials stressed the outbreaks were isolated.

                          Five of the schools were in Queens: IS 238 in Hollis, IS 5 in Elmhurst, Public School 16 in Corona, Junior High School 74 in Bayside and PS 107 in Flushing.

                          The sixth, IS 318, is in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

                          The Wiener family, along with parents and elected officials, questioned whether the city was responding quickly enough to flu clusters in their schools.

                          Mayor Bloomberg said the closings were handled on a school by school basis.

                          More schools could close before Monday, said teachers union president Randi Weingarten. Her staff received reports from 21 schools - including the three closed Friday - of a high number of student absences.

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                          • #43
                            Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 6 Schools Closed

                            probably not standard protocol, however he is in serious condition, so they do not know what they could potentially be dealing with or exposing others too. Better safe than sorry

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                            • #44
                              Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 3 Schools Closed

                              Originally posted by thebes View Post
                              Does anyone know - would it be standard procedure for the family to wear full body protection or does this indicate they might be more worried about Mr. Weiner's particular virus?
                              If the family are the ones who additionaly care for him in the isolation room, and later are allowed to going home, than it could be standard.

                              But if they are not care engaged, and they only cames to visit him,
                              such procedure is suspect, especialy because they were already deeply in contact with him previously at home, when he was already infectious.

                              Maybe thay feared some new virus mutation is in the patient?

                              I guess this isolation room have hermetic glasses(?),
                              or it is fresh aired normaly?

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                              • #45
                                Re: New York City, USA - Queens Educator Critically Ill With Swine Flu; 6 Schools Closed

                                Energex proposes HemoModulation therapy for treatment of H1N1 swine flu

                                8 May 2009
                                Energex Systems Inc. has announced that it has notified the FDA of its interest in applying for an Emergency Use Approval that would permit the company to offer its HemoModulation therapy for the treatment of influenza type A(H1N1), otherwise known as swine flu.
                                HemoModulation therapy was shown to inactivate the virus in mice. This same therapy has been under review by the FDA and is in human clinical trials for Hepatitis C and HIV.
                                HemoModulation therapy is a process using precise amounts of UVC energy on a small sample of the patient's blood to inactivate the particular strain of virus that the patient is infected with, and returning the blood to the body. The hypothesis is that UV inactivated virus will serve as an autologous vaccine and boost the immune system of the patient against their particular strain of virus.
                                The process takes approximately 30 minutes and can be administered in an office, lab or any other healthcare facility.
                                In animal studies, says Thomas Petrie, the company?s Director of Research & Development, the therapy produced discernable and substantial improvement in both clinical disease and pulmonary function in mice infected with the H1N1 virus.
                                Minimal clinical illness was observed up to 9 days post infection for those animals that were treated. In contrast, the SHAM-treated animals developed severe illness by day 6 that did not significantly resolve through the 13-day course of the study.
                                As measured by pulmonary lung function testing, infected animals that were treated with HemoModulation therapy exhibited a significantly greater ability to breathe relative to their sham-treated counterparts and pathological examination of lungs clearly indicated that treatment significantly inhibited virus induced inflammation resulting in airways that were for the most part, clear of inflammatory cells and cellular debris.
                                In contrast, the lungs of the sham-treated animals had airways that were filled with inflammatory cells and blood, and exhibited substantial destruction of cells lining the airways.



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