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This comes after another dead duck was found last weekend at Library Park
Most recent duck death was between 9/17-9/23.
This news report may be a good source for supporting factual content as they have to verify before they print.
The Spirit Wild is Lake County's Wildlife Rescue & Rehabilitation Center and am not sure what their role would be in documenting these type of events.
Clearly there are inconsistencies here. If there is one, there may be more. That is the implication. We will know something on Monday.
Probably both - just imagine how many of our regulations will need to change when HPAI is carried by birds that frequent public places.....they will become "the enemy."
Understand and live in a rural area and my property borders a man made duck pond frequented by migratory birds. Its like an accident waiting to happen. Same neighbor is raising chickens there. Am esp concerned for my animals who are confined from them but are in relative proximity.
FWIW, I did a google search for Lakeport + H5N1. I got two results. One is above article dated today. The other reads as follows:
No one's in charge ... that's the problem
Lake County Record-Bee, CA - Aug 29, 2006
... death of approximately a dozen wild ducks at Library Park in Lakeport is nothing new. ... if the ducks had actually died from the feared avian flu H5N1, then there ...
When I clicked this link to go to the article, the Lake County Record-Bee.com site indicated: "The content item you have requested is no longer available."
I dug around the site a bit and could find anything further and this is too new for the wayback machine.
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Duck/goose treats aren't good for them, nor are they good for the environment. Could actually make waterfowl more susceptible to avian flu.
It's one of those things that birdwatcher people know, like people here know about bird flu. Something that seems really harmless and is enjoyed by many people is really not a good idea. As hard as it is to get people to prepare for something they never want to happen (pandemic,) even harder to get them to stop doing something they love to do with the grandkids!
Our feathered friends are certainly just beginning a period of extreme hardship. If it's not bird flu, then it's habitat destruction, global warming and it's many impacts, pollution, etc. I'm always encouraged by remembering the have a long history of adaptation. But past onslaughts may have been fewer at one time and slower. Today, on NPR they said that the Sandhill Crane has been adapting to various changes for 9 million years! Just imagine - millions of years to adapt to influenza - no wonder they can be asymptomatic carriers.
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"The next major advancement in the health of American people will be determined by what the individual is willing to do for himself"-- John Knowles, Former President of the Rockefeller Foundation
Everything is just ducky
October 01,2006 ROSELEE PAPANDREA
DAILY NEWS STAFF
HUBERT ? Toni O?Neil wasn?t so sure that many of the 30 ducklings rescued from downtown Swansboro two months ago would survive a day.
But after vigilant care at Possumwood Acres Wildlife Sanctuary in Hubert where O?Neil, a wildlife rehabilitator, works to bring sick or abandoned creatures back to life, 15 of the 30 ducklings not only survived but thrived.
On Saturday, the young Muscovy ducks were ready for the next phase of their lives, and two families were eager to provide homes.
A 3-acre pond already stocked with fish, turtles and plenty of visits from wildlife seemed like the perfect spot for nine of the ducks, and John and Ann Carson of Hubert couldn?t wait to bring them home. Shirley Ballantine, who lives on Old 30 Road in the Jacksonville area, added six to her two ponds.
The three adult Muscovy ducks that survived will remain at Possumwood Acres.
When O?Neil took in the ducklings in late July, she never intended to return them to downtown Swansboro. At the time, she wasn?t certain what caused many of the ducks that roamed freely in the town?s waterfront area to die.
Officials with the N.C. Department of Agriculture said Friday that botulinum toxin type C ? a type of botulism found in birds ? was the culprit, said Brian Long, spokesman for the Department of Agriculture.
The finding didn?t surprise O?Neil but after treating the ducks, including the many that didn?t make it, she is still convinced that more than botulism is to blame.
?We had ducklings running around and eating,? O?Neil said. ?They were fine and then in an hour they were dead.?
She thinks they were also poisoned.
?I think some of them got a double whammy,? O?Neil said. ?You can get botulism and live. I think they were already weakened and succumbed to the botulism or the other way around.?
Dr. Mary Ann McBride, the assistant state veteran with the N.C. Department of Agriculture?s veterinary division, said the bacteria that causes botulism is everywhere and it?s not unusual to see it grow in hot months.
?When it gets into stagnant water or a low-oxygen environment, it grows rapidly,? she said. ?It takes very little toxin to kill water fowl.?
State officials were called to Swansboro after more than 10 adult ducks and at least 25 ducklings were found dead. Samples were taken and a necropsy ? an animal autopsy ? was done on one of the dead birds. McBride knew it wasn?t bird flu immediately, but the exact cause of death was more difficult to determine.
Samples were sent to a lab out of state and the results were in Friday. While people who care for the ducks need to be sure water and food supplies are always fresh, McBride said, this form of botulism won?t hurt humans.
?This is not a public health risk,? she said.
Tests don?t indicate that the ducks were poisoned. A common term for what the ducks had is ?limber neck,? McBride said.
?Typically when we see this, they can?t hold their heads up,? McBride said. ?They undergo a form of paralysis because they can?t control their muscles. Some were able to pull through this because they didn?t get a lethal dose.?
Officials in Swansboro are planning to take a few steps in an effort to prevent a situation like this from happening again, said Swansboro police Chief Ed Parrish.
?We plan to formulate some sort of education flier and get that out to individuals who may be involved with the ducks,? he said. He?s also going to get officers to check the areas were the ducks congregate.
?We will be on the lookout for spoiled food and unsanitary conditions that might cause problems,? Parrish said. ?We will attempt to monitor and address the issues as they might arise.?
O?Neil is grateful that she won?t have to worry about the brood that was adopted Saturday.
?I want these guys to have a good life where we don?t have to worry about anything happening to them,? she said.
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"The next major advancement in the health of American people will be determined by what the individual is willing to do for himself"-- John Knowles, Former President of the Rockefeller Foundation
Clearly there are inconsistencies here. If there is one, there may be more. That is the implication. We will know something on Monday.
I don't see any inconsistancies. Over the summer there was a duck die off (maybe 50 ducks). The diagnosis was botulism. Now there is a least one more (but probably more) who died in late September. I suspect the H5 is from the more recent case.
USDA hasn't said anything on these birds, at least not recently.
H5 in a dead duck is not a good indicator. The earlier die off involved bent neck.
FWIW, I did a google search for Lakeport + H5N1. I got two results. One is above article dated today. The other reads as follows:
When I clicked this link to go to the article, the Lake County Record-Bee.com site indicated: "The content item you have requested is no longer available."
I dug around the site a bit and could find anything further and this is too new for the wayback machine.
Bits and pieces can be obtained via various searches. This one suggests that the H5 was not from the August outbreak, but from the current outrbreak of one or more dead ducks (which has not been linked to botulism):
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It looks like earlier story is available for a fee
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Understanding the duck deaths </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=6></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Author: From staff reports Date: September 2, 2006 Publication: Lake County Record Bee (Lakeport, CA) </TD></TR><TR><TD>Cynthia Davis -- Record-Bee staff LAKEPORT -- The city of Lakeport's new Web site currently lists "Dead Birds at Library Park" under the category of Hot Topics for residents.
It's an apt description at a time when the heat is on the city and county to quickly respond to dead or dying ducks in the city's centerpiece park.
The waterfowl are believed to be affected by avian botulism, but the actual cause may never be known for........... </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
It looks like earlier story is available for a fee
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Understanding the duck deaths </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=6></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Author: From staff reports Date: September 2, 2006 Publication: Lake County Record Bee (Lakeport, CA)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>Cynthia Davis -- Record-Bee staff LAKEPORT -- The city of Lakeport's new Web site currently lists "Dead Birds at Library Park" under the category of Hot Topics for residents.
It's an apt description at a time when the heat is on the city and county to quickly respond to dead or dying ducks in the city's centerpiece park.
The waterfowl are believed to be affected by avian botulism, but the actual cause may never be known for...........
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Understanding the duck deaths Lake County Record-Bee, CA - <NOBR>Sep 2, 2006</NOBR> ... The waterfowl are believed to be affected by avian botulism, but the actual cause may never be known for certain due to a miscommunication in regard to the ...
Looks like two stories on August 29 by two reporters
<TABLE cellSpacing=7 cellPadding=2 width="75%" border=0 valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>Disposal remains unclear for ducks Lake County Record-Bee, CA - <NOBR>Aug 29, 2006</NOBR>
LAKEPORT -- Monday the Fish and Game Wildlife Investigation Lab confirmed a presumptive diagnosis of avian botulism in recent LibraryPark duck deaths. ...
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=7 cellPadding=2 width="75%" border=0 valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>No one's in charge ... that's the problem Lake County Record-Bee, CA - <NOBR>Aug 29, 2006</NOBR>
By Terry Knight -- Record-Bee outdoors columnist. The recent death of approximately a dozen wild ducks at LibraryPark in Lakeport is nothing new. ... </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Disposal remains unclear for ducks Lake County Record-Bee, CA - <NOBR>Aug 29, 2006</NOBR> ... of Lakeport have now been advised by Associate Wildlife Biologist of the California Dept of Fish and Game Allan Buckman to create a cooperative rescue program ...
Disposal remains unclear for ducks Lake County Record-Bee, CA - <NOBR>Aug 29, 2006</NOBR> ... of Lakeport have now been advised by Associate Wildlife Biologist of the California Dept of Fish and Game Allan Buckman to create a cooperative rescue program ...
I don't see any inconsistancies. Over the summer there was a duck die off (maybe 50 ducks). The diagnosis was botulism. Now there is a least one more (but probably more) who died in late September. I suspect the H5 is from the more recent case.
USDA hasn't said anything on these birds, at least not recently.
H5 in a dead duck is not a good indicator. The earlier die off involved bent neck.
Is this about the earlier die off you talk about ?
Published: Oct 01, 2006 12:30 AM
Modified: Oct 01, 2006 02:57 AM Bacterium caused duck deaths
Jerry Allegood, Staff Writer
SWANSBORO - A common bacterium is to blame for mysterious illnesses and deaths among Swansboro's free-roaming ducks, according to the N.C. Department of Agriculture.Mary Ann McBride, assistant state veterinarian, said tests confirmed the ducks died of avian botulism, a paralytic disease caused by ingestion of a toxin or poison produced by a bacterium commonly found in soil and stagnant water. Birds sometimes ingest the toxin directly while foraging or may eat toxin-laden maggots.
McBride said the outbreak did not pose a public health hazard.
Dozens of Muscovy ducks that waddled around the waterfront died in July and August, prompting some to suggest the ducks had been intentionally poisoned. Town officials said they did nothing to destroy the ducks, which are characterized by a red crest above the beaks of adults.
State officials earlier ruled out avian bird flu and exotic Newcastle disease and said there was no indication of an infectious disease that would threaten poultry or humans. More detailed tests that can take weeks were required for botulism, according to McBride, who said the investigation ended with the conclusive results on Friday.
"It was unfortunate for the ducks, but at least we know what we are dealing with," she said.
Botulism in humans usually results from eating improperly canned foods.
Staff writer Jerry Allegood can be reached in Greenville at (252) 752-8411 or jerrya@newsobserver.com.
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