Mystery disease kills pigs in Southern China: press

[JohnW]

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The link provided is in Chinese. Anyone toggle-texting?

广东19名大学生集体感染流感
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奥一网 4月28-30日，广东药学院19名大三学生集体活动出现发热、咳嗽和头痛症状。昨日，这些学生病因被基本诊断集体患 有流感，广州市疾控中心已到医院取 样。广州市卫生局表示，今年以来全市共确认流感样病例暴发疫情2起，相较去年同期的132起，疫情大大减少 。不过目前监测到流感有季节性增加的趋势，市民 仍须做好预防。
(博讯 boxun.com)
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　　症状轻治疗后好转

　　据了解，广东药学院的这19名学生是从4月28日起开始陆续出现发热、咳嗽或咽痛等流感样病例症状的， 全部症状较轻，经过治疗后所有患者的病情好转或稳定，没有出现肺炎等症状。

　　广州市疾控中心主任王鸣表示，今年1-4月，广州市监测的流感数据均比2004-2006年的平均水平低，病源学监测方面也仅在个别标本中分离到流感
病毒，其间全市报告流感样病例暴发疫情9起，均为学校发生的20人以下小疫情，经过检测其中只有2起被确认 为流感疫情，比去年同期的132起明显减少。

　　3-7月流感高发季节

　　尽管如此，3-7月仍是广州流感高发的季节，广州市卫生局监测到，从2月份起
医院门诊流感样病例轻度增加，其中4月增加到4.4%，流感疫情正呈季节性增加的趋势。

　　由于流感多暴发在学校等集体单位，卫生局日前发出指引，要求学校等集体单位要加强教室的通风换气，保证 课间休息时间，避免疲劳；校方要加强晨 检，若发现任何?发热、伴有咽部充血、扁桃体红肿、咽痛、眼结合膜充血?等为主要临床表现的病人及疑似病人 ，及时报告当地的疾病预防控制机构。此外，学 生、教师或员工如患呼吸道疾病，应及早就医，必要时应留在家中休息；病人尽可能留在家中隔离治疗，以防传播 他人。校医或相关负责人等要留意缺课人数，若发 现缺课人数增加，要及时问明缺课原因；若发现多名缺课者出现相似病症，应及时报告当地疾病预防 控制中心。

　　预防流感须知：

　　一、勤洗手，双手接触呼吸道分泌物(如打喷嚏)后应该立即洗手。

　　二、打喷嚏或咳嗽时，应该用手帕或纸巾掩住口鼻。

　　三、加强锻炼身体，均衡饮食，避免过度疲劳。

　　四、勤晒被褥、勤晒衣服、勤晒太阳和开窗通气。

　　五、在流感高发期，尽量不要到人多拥挤、空气污浊的场所。

<!--bodyend--> 　　六、儿童和老人等抵抗力弱的人群应该接种流感疫苗。 (博讯 boxun.com)

[hawkeye]

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Let's all keep in mind that this Boxun report has not been confirmed, and it could just be regular flu.

[gsgs]

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not toggletext, but just babelfish:

The Guangdong 19 university students collectives infection flu (abundant news on May 02, 2007 reprints) A Austria net April 28-30, the Guangdong medicine institute 19 big three students collectives activity appears gives off heat, the cough and the headache symptom. Yesterday, these student causes of disease basically are diagnosed the collective to contract the flu, the Guangzhou illness control the center already to the hospital sample. The Guangzhou sanitation bureau indicated that, since this year the whole city altogether confirmed flu type case of illness explodes epidemic situation 2, compared same time last year 132, the epidemic situation greatly reduces. But at present monitored the flu to have the tendency which the seasonal characteristic increased, the resident still must complete the prevention. (Abundant news boxun.com) After the symptom light treatment changes for the better It is reported, Guangdong medicine institute's these 19 student is starts from April 28 to appear one after another gives off heat, flu type case of illness symptom and so on cough or pharyngalgia, complete symptom lighter, after the process treatment all patients' condition changes for the better or is stable, has not had symptom and so on pneumonia. The Guangzhou illness controls central Director Wang Ming to indicate, this year 1-4 month, Guangzhou monitors the flu data is lower than 2004-2006 year average level, the cause of disease study monitor aspect also only separates the flu virus in the individual specimen, during the whole city reported flu type case of illness explodes epidemic situation 9, 20 person of below small epidemic situations which occurs for the school, the process examines only has 2 to confirm for the flu epidemic situation, obviously reduced compared to same time last year 132. 3-7 month flu high sends the season Although so, 3-7 month was still the Guangzhou flu Gao Fa season, the Guangzhou sanitation bureau monitors, from February the hospital outpatient service flu type case of illness mild increase, in April increases to 4.4%, the flu epidemic situation is assuming the tendency which the seasonal characteristic increases. Because the flu explodes much in collective unit and so on the school, the sanitation bureau sent out the direction on the other day, requested collective unit and so on the school to have to strengthen the classroom well ventilated to take a breath, guaranteed the class recess relaxation time, avoided wearily; The school authorities must strengthen the early morning to examine, if discovered any "gives off heat, the partner has swallows an hyperemia, the tonsil is inflamed, the pharyngalgia, the eye 结合膜 hyperemia" and so on for the main clinical manifestation patient and 疑似 the patient, promptly reports local the prophylaxis control mechanism. In addition, the student, the teacher or the staff like trouble respiratory tract disease, should early go see a doctor, when necessity should keep in the family to rest; The patient keeps in the family to isolate the treatment as far as possible, guards against disseminates the other people. The school doctor or the correlation person in charge and so on want to pay attention is absent from class the population, if discovered is absent from class the population to increase, must promptly find out is absent from class the reason; If discovered many being absent from class appear the similar illness, should promptly report the local prophylaxis control center. Prevention flu notice: First, industriously washes the hands, after both hands contact respiratory tract secretion (for example sneezes) should wash the hands immediately. When second, sneezes or the cough, should use the handkerchief or the paper goods covers up the mouth nose. Third, strengthens exercises the body, the balanced diet, avoids overtiredly. Fourth, industriously exposes to the sun the bedding, industriously exposes to the sun clothes, industriously exposes to the sun the sun and opens the window to ventilate. Fifth, in flu Gao Faqi, do not have to arrive the person as far as possible to be crowded, the air pollution place. Sixth, the child and the old person and so on the resistivity weak crowd should vaccinate the flu vaccine. (Abundant news boxun.com)

[MHSC]

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Thanks!

They aren't reporting pneumonia, but it doesn't hurt to keep an eye on this.

Wait! CNN ASIA is reporting on the pigs right now. That is the first I have heard of it here. No new info though.

[sharon sanders]

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The students report reads like a regular seasonal flu outbreak to me. But I am not an expert in boxun analysis.

[Niko]

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My preferred translator for Chinese is WorldLingo found here: http://www.worldlingo.com/en/product...ranslator.html

Unfortunately, the free service will only translate 150 words at a time. The below boxun report was done in three sections from this link: http://news.boxun.com/news/gb/health...05021203.shtml posted by vinny.


<center>Guangdong 19 university student collective infection flu
(<small>Abundant news on May 02, 2007</small> <small>Reprint</small>)</center> <!--bodystart-->
A Austria net April 28-30, the Guangdong College of pharmacy 19 big three student collective activity appears gives off heat, the cough and the headache symptom.Yesterday, these student cause of disease basically is diagnosed the collective to contract flu, the Guangzhou CSC already to the hospital sample.Guangzhou Sanitation bureau indicated that, since this year the whole city altogether confirmed flu type case of illness explodes epidemic situation 2, compared the same time last year 132, the epidemic situation reduces greatly.But at present monitored flu to have the tendency which the seasonal characteristic increased, the resident still must complete the prevention.
(Abundant news boxun.com)

　　After the symptom light treatment changes for the better

　　According to the understanding, Guangdong College of pharmacy's these 19 student is starts from April 28 to appear one after another gives off heat, flu type case of illness symptoms and so on cough or pharyngalgia, the complete symptom is light, after the process treatment all patient's condition changes for the better or stable, has not had symptoms and so on pneumonia.

　　Guangzhou CSC Director Wang Ming indicated, 1- in April, Guangzhou monitors this year flu data is lower than 2004-2006 year average level, the cause of disease study monitor aspect also only separates flu in the individual specimen

The virus, during the whole city reported flu type case of illness explodes epidemic situation 9, 20 human of below small epidemic situations which occurs for the school, the process examines only then 2 to confirm for flu epidemic situation, reduced obviously compared to same time last year 132.
　　3- in July flu succeeding in the imperial civil service examinations season
for all this, 3- in July still was the Guangzhou flu succeeding in the imperial civil service examinations season, Guangzhou Sanitation bureau monitors, from February
the hospital outpatient service flu type case of illness mild increase, in which in April increases to 4.4%, flu epidemic situation is assuming the tendency which the seasonal characteristic increases.
　　Because flu explodes much in collective units and so on the school, the sanitation bureau sent out the direction on the other day, requested collective units and so on the school to have to strengthen the classroom to ventilate the air change, guaranteed the class recess relaxation time, avoided wearily; The school authorities must strengthen the early morning to examine, if discovered any? gives off heat, is accompanied by swallows an hyperemia, the tonsil inflamed, pharyngalgia, the eye binding film hyperemia? and so on for the main clinical manifestation patient and the doubtful patient, reports local promptly the prophylaxis control mechanism.In addition, the student, the teacher or the staff like contract the respiratory disease, should go see a doctor early, when necessity should keep in the family to rest; The patient keeps in the family to isolate the treatment as far as possible, guards against disseminates other people.

The school doctor or the correlation person in charge and so on want to pay attention are absent from class the population, if discovered is absent from class the population to increase, must find out promptly is absent from class the reason; If discovered many being absent from class appear the similar illness, should report the local Centers for Disease Control and Prevention promptly.

[hawkeye]

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What I'm concerned most about is the city:
Remember this?

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15378

[hawkeye]

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Mystery illness sparks pork scare
May 08 2007 at 12:13PM

Beijing - China ordered pork farmers on Tuesday to carry out mass vaccinations after a mysterious outbreak killed hundreds of pigs in the nation's south.

The agriculture ministry said it had urged stepped-up vaccinations for swine fever, pig rash and swine pneumonia and called on animal medical factories to increase production of medicines.

The directive was issued after up to 300 pigs in Guangdong province died over the last 10 days from a mystery disease that saw the pigs stop eating, develop fevers and begin hemorrhaging, the New Express paper reported.

Local farm bureaus were not immediately available for comment.

Yang Weixin, head of the township where the outbreak happened, told the paper there were up to 10 000 head of swine raised there and denied reports that up to 80 percent of the area's pigs had died.

"According to preliminary findings from local government and provincial experts a large-scale epidemic or an epidemic that can spread from animals to people has been ruled out," Yang said. "At present the disease has been controlled."

The epidemic has largely hit pigs being raised by individual farmers while industrial pig farms in the region, where health and sanitation conditions are better, have so far not reported any unusual outbreaks, the paper said.

The disease has caused a panic in the local areas as residents stopped buying pork for fear of eating tainted meat, it said.

Officials said there was no chance that tainted meat or sick pigs could find their way to markets in Hong Kong, which borders Guangdong.

Transport of live pigs from the affected area has been banned. - Sapa-AFP

[vinny]

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China?s Pigs Dying from Unknown Cause
The WHO and other international health organizations have been informed that pigs in the Guangdong Province have been dying in large numbers from an unexplained cause.

The Hong Kong media is awash with gory tales of pigs with blood pouring from their bodies, peasants selling sick pigs cheap and deceased pig carcasses floating down rivers. Doctors are begging China to share any information they might have.

The international health community is afraid China may be covering up an epidemic like they did with SARS. "They definitely need to tell the public but also people in the city as to the extent of the outbreak,? said Dr. Kwok Ka-ki.

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=62281

[MHSC]

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Guangdong was the birthplace of SARS wasn't it?

[MHSC]

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http://english.people.com.cn/data/province/guangdong.html

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Guangdong Province

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</td></tr> <tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">Location:</td> <td class="BigBody">Guangdong is situated in the southern most part of China.</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
</td></tr><tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">Area:</td> <td class="BigBody">177,600 square kilometers </td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
</td></tr><tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">Climate:</td> <td class="BigBody">Guangdong is located in the subtropical zone. Most pasts of it belong to the subtropical monsoon climate. So it has long summers and warm winters. The average annual temperature rises gradually from the north to the south, that is ,from about 19??to22??.The average annual rainfall is over 1,500 mm. Therefore the whole province is green all the year round and is seething with life everywhere. </td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
</td></tr><tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">provincial capital:</td> <td class="BigBody">Guangzhou</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
</td></tr><tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">Population:</td> <td class="BigBody">86.42 millions (March 2001)</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
</td></tr><tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">Ethnic groups:</td> <td class="BigBody">Guangdong is a multi-national provice. Besides the ltan people, there are other ethnic groups, such as Yao, Hui, Manchu, Yi, Li, Miao and so on, totaling 42. </td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
</td></tr><tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">Major Cities:</td> <td class="BigBody"> Chaozhou; Dongguan; Shantou; Shenzhen; Shunde; Zhuhai; </td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
</td></tr><tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">Agriculture:</td> <td class="BigBody">In as much as only about 15 percent of its land is under cultivation, agriculture is of necessity extremely intensive. The limited extent of sown land avaialble is, however, partly offset by repeated uses of it. Two crops of rice a year can be grown on most cultivated land, the annual yields resulting from two harvests exceed the national average. Rice is is the leading crop, occupying 76 percent of the total cultivated area and accounting for over 80 percent of Guangdong's total food production. </td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
</td></tr><tr><td width="12"></td><td style="font-family: arial,helvetica,serif; font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold;" valign="top">Industry:</td> <td class="BigBody">Light industry has always been of significance in the province. Apart from handicrafts, light industry -- especially food processing and the manufacture of textiles -- accounts considerablly the provincial industry. Sugar refining is centred in Guangzhou, Dongguan, Shunde, Jiangmen and Shantou, while silk filature (the reeling of silk from cocoons) and weaving are well developed in Guangzhou, Foshan and Shunde. Heavy industry include metal processing, the manufacture of machinery, shipbuilding and ship repairing, the production of hydroelectricity and mining. </td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3">
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[AlaskaDenise]

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Commentary at

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05...Guangdong.html

Commentary

Mysterious Fatal Swine Disease in Guangdong
Recombinomics Commentary
May 7, 2007

Hong Kong media were full of lurid accounts Monday of pigs staggering around with blood pouring from their bodies in Gaoyao and neighboring Yunfu, both in Guangdong Province. Apple, a daily newspaper here, said that up to 80 percent of the pigs had died in the area, that peasants were engaged in panic selling of ailing animals at deep discounts and that pig carcasses were floating down the river.

Medical experts said that the extent of the reported bleeding from the pigs, including bloody skin lesions, did not sound like common symptoms of bird flu, but added that the pig deaths needed to be investigated. Because pigs can be infected with many avian and human influenza viruses, the most popular scientific model for how avian influenza viruses cause pandemics in humans is that human and avian influenza viruses exchange genetic material when they infect a pig at the same time.

The above comments on the swine deaths in Guangdong province are cause for concern. Bleeding under the skin was common in the 1918 pandemic, and bleeding from the mouth has been frequently reported in bird and human H5N1 infections, including clusters in Thailand, Turkey, and Iraq.

Moreover, the only country to report H5N1 to a public database has been China (see list below). Several different strains of H5N1 have been reported in Guangdong province including Fujian, Qinghai, and the sequences from the Shantou geese.

The co-circulation of distinct strains also offers the opportunity for dual infections and recombination and the recent spread of the disease in swine coincides with increased migration.

It was almost exactly two years ago that the Qinghai stain was reported at Qinghai Lake in central China. The sequences in the Qinghai isolates had links to Shantou isolates.

The large number of dead swine should be investigated aggressively. The outbreak at Qinghai Lake in 2005 signaled a major extension of the geographical reach of H5N1, and intensive testing will be required to rule out H5N1 in these swine deaths. Involvement of H5N1 in these deaths would be a significant event in the evolution of H5N1, which is becoming increasingly complex as its geographical reach continues to spread.

A detailed investigation into the etiology of these swine deaths would be useful.

H5N1 Swine in China

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• Influenza A virus (A/swine/Shandong/2/03(H5N1))<O:P></O:P>

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[wdcare]

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Voice of America: http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-05-08-voa10.cfm

China Says Little About Pig Epidemic, Reminiscent of SARS Outbreak
By Luis Ramirez
Beijing, 08 May 2007

International health officials say the Chinese government has said little about an unidentified illness that has killed hundreds of hogs in southern China. VOA's Luis Ramirez reports from Beijing.


It was only after newspapers in Hong Kong reported the illness that the official media in mainland China mentioned the outbreak. Residents in southern China's Guangdong province say the disease, which apparently leads the animals to bleed to death, broke out as early as February, and has spread to more than 1,000 pigs. Information about the disease secret for months, until it spread across the border to Hong Kong, and on to other parts of Asia.

Guo Fusheng is a technical adviser at the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization office in Beijing. He said his agency is still awaiting word on the pig illness from the Chinese authorities.

"We discussed with the Ministry of Agriculture. They said they are going to (issue) a declaration. We got very limited information from them," he said.

Newspaper accounts speak of hundreds of pigs bleeding to death in Guangdong. News reports in southern China Tuesday said the government had ordered pig breeders to vaccinate their stocks, even though officials have yet to identify what is causing the disease.

Reports have quoted local residents as saying the mystery disease has killed as much as 80 percent of the hogs in the Gaoyao and Yunfu areas of Guangdong province. A newspaper quotes a local official as saying that figure is not true.

International health officials are monitoring the outbreak, since diseases seen in pigs can sometimes jump to people.

The World Health Organization has criticized the Chinese leadership for failing to hand over tissue samples in a timely manner of people and poultry infected with the H5N1 bird flu virus. The WHO was also critical of Beijing's hesitation in providing full information about the SARS outbreak.

[wdcare]

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Wonder if this is what's making the pigs sick...

Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKPEK23775320070509
China pig disease unlikely to affect people: experts

Wed May 9, 2007 8:03AM EDT
By Tan Ee Lyn

HONG KONG (Reuters) - A disease that has wiped out as many as a million pigs in China in the past year is unlikely to spread to humans, leading veterinarians said on Wednesday.

Chinese officials have blamed the epidemic on Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome (PRRS), or blue ear disease, which is caused by a virus in the arterivirus family.

"No, we have no indication whatsoever that that (spread to humans) can happen at all," said Albert Osterhaus, a virology expert at the Erasmus University Medical Centre in Rotterdam.

"There are a lot of viral infections that do occur in certain animal species and are restricted to that particular species, and of course you can never say that something could never happen," he said.

"But it is highly unlikely especially when the virus has been around in pigs for quite some time already. I don't think it is likely," said Osterhaus, a veterinarian by training.

According to a veterinarian at Hong Kong's Agriculture and Fisheries and Conservation Department, PRRS is a very common pig disease, and vaccines are available to prevent it.

PRRS was first recognized in the United States in the mid-1980s. The disease has cost the U.S. swine industry an estimated US$600 million each year.

The virus causes still-births, fever, loss of appetite, diarrhea, redness of the skin and mortality rates of up to 50 percent on some farms.

The ears of affected pigs turn blue, thus giving it the household name "blue ear disease".

VIRUS WIDESPREAD

The virus accumulates in white blood cells in the lung tissues of pigs. The white blood cells would normally ingest and remove invading bacteria and viruses, but not in the case of the PRRS virus. Instead, the virus multiplies inside white blood cells and eventually kills them.

Although Beijing has not published any figures, Chinese industry officials say the disease has caused a million pig deaths since the first outbreak in southern Jiangxi province in May last year.

The disease, which China has blamed on a strain of the virus, has since spread to many provinces in the south and northeast.

Osterhaus said the spread probably had to do with the way pigs are raised, with the close proximity of farms in China.

"It depends largely on the way animals are being kept and the possibility of contact between different farms. The disease has been spreading quite intensively in the world, so I don't think from that point of view that China is in a particular (unique) situation," he told Reuters by telephone.

China's Disease Control Centre at the Ministry of Agriculture is working to find effective vaccines against the current strain of the virus in China, but that might not be easy because the virus mutates quickly, said an official at the centre.

China issued draft rules for pig slaughterhouses to protect people's health and the quality of pork products on Wednesday.

Slaughterhouses must be licensed and approved by local governments and environmental bureau, and must be located away from drinking water supplies, residential districts and public areas, the Ministry of Commerce said on its Web site.

[Treyfish]

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I thought it was "pig high fever disease".this new story about PRRS doesn't tell why the pigs in previous stories are bleeding from everywhere and floating down rivers.I think this story is.......IMHO.