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  • #46
    Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

    <TABLE cellSpacing=8><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>Flu flies into Riyadh</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle> RIYADH
    Four cases detected, poultry market cordoned off

    A poultry market in the Aziziyah district of Riyadh was cordoned off after civic officials detected four cases of bird flu there during a random inspection, according to Arab News.
    An emergency team, assigned by the Ministry of Agriculture to control the deadly virus, cordoned off the market. The team of officials from the police, the municipality, the ministries of Health and Agriculture and the National Commission for Wildlife Conservation and Development.
    ?There are 85 poultry shops in the market and each has a minimum of 1,000 birds. The team plans to cull the birds and disinfect the whole area to stop the virus from spreading,? said Soliman Al Buthi, general manager of the environmental health department at the Riyadh Municipality.
    He said the municipality was working with the emergency team to tackle the problem.
    Al Buthi said the situation was under control and called on the public to help the authorities tackle the problem.
    In a statement, Agriculture Undersecretary Muhammad Al Sheha said the authorities had so far culled 222,000 birds in Al Kharj, Durma, Muzamiyah and Al Hayati.
    Bird flu was discovered earlier this year in peacocks, turkeys and parrots at a house in the east of the kingdom and a number of birds in the area were culled. Following the recent outbreak, poultry farm workers are being examined by Ministry of Health doctors. All workers those screened have tested negative.
    ?Farm workers were brought to hospitals in their regions and examined for bird flu. Clinical examinations revealed that none of them had bird flu,? Ministry of Health spokesman Khaled Al Mirghalani said.
    ?We have given flu vaccinations to all those who were tested,? he added.
    Al Mirghalani said the kingdom had adequate stock of Tamiflu tablets for use in case of emergency. He said there were no vaccinations against bird flu and Tamiflu tablets were administered as a treatment.
    ?We?re fully equipped with laboratories and drugs to treat suspected patients, if any,? Mirghalani said, adding that citizens should immediately report suspected cases.
    He also advised people to keep away from birds, not to hunt them, not to touch dead birds without gloves, and to consume on well-cooked chicken and eggs.
    The Agriculture Ministry has called on poultry farmers to strictly implement safety regulations. It also called on the public to inform the authorities about suspected bird flu cases on 01-403-0911.
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    • #47
      Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

      <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Shoura Calls for Quick Steps to Contain Bird Flu
      P.K. Abdul Ghafour, Arab News ?
      </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>JEDDAH, 21 November 2007 ? The Shoura Council has urged the health and agriculture ministries to take quick measures to eradicate bird flu in the Kingdom and keep the public updated about the deadly virus.
      During a meeting in Riyadh, many Shoura members called upon the ministers of health and agriculture to explain to the public the reason for the bird flu outbreak in the Riyadh region.
      Al-Watan Arabic daily carried photographs of an Agriculture Ministry team in masks and white coats in the Aziziya market south of Riyadh, saying bird flu cases had been found there. It was not clear what strain of the bird flu virus had been detected.
      Saudi authorities have taken all measures to contain the outbreak just a few weeks before the arrival of more than two million pilgrims for Haj.
      The Ministry of Agriculture last week culled 50,000 birds at a poultry farm in Al-Kharj, 150 km south of Riyadh, after 1,500 birds died of unspecified causes.
      Officials said this week 220,000 birds have been culled so far, as teams combed other areas near the capital, which has a population of around four million.
      Health Ministry spokesman Dr. Khaled Al-Mirghalani said it has large stocks of Tamiflu anti-flu tablets in case the virus spreads to humans.
      In a statement yesterday, the Health Ministry said medical tests conducted on 474 workers dealing with affected birds were negative, adding that the workers have been given preventive medicine.
      ?Bird flu has not yet affected any person in the Kingdom,? the ministry said, adding that the disease would not be transmitted from one person to another.
      However, the ministry said avian flu could spread to humans through affected birds in limited cases as a result of direct contacts. Since the discovery of the disease in 2003, only 335 persons have been affected throughout the world.
      The ministry called upon the public not to have direct contact with live birds and said chicken and eggs should be cooked properly before eating to avoid infection.
      There are more than 340 licensed poultry farms across the country and they produce nearly 480 million birds annually. Total investment in the industry is estimated at more than SR40 billion.
      Avian flu outbreak has sent shockwaves among businessmen who have invested in the industry as they fear that it would have negative impact on their business. Salesmen at many poultry shops have already reported decline in sales and many have frozen their chicken to avert big losses.
      In March, Saudi Arabia said the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu had been discovered in peacocks, turkeys, ostriches and parrots at a house in the Eastern Province and that an unspecified number of birds in the area had been culled.
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      Established in 1975, the Saudi-based Arab News is the Middle East’s newspaper of record and the biggest English language daily in the Kingdom.

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      • #48
        Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

        Originally posted by niman View Post
        The wild bird origin has already been noted in media reports.

        The testing of dead wild birds in the area likely does not exist, so the question by promed is a bit silly. When H5N1 outbreaks happened in late 2005 and the OIE reports specifically said the origin was likely to be wild birds, ProMed ignored the source.

        Now they keep asking questions for which there are no data, which is why the commentaries are really just propaganda pieces.
        There are dead, migratory ducks being reported in Qatar.

        ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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        • #49
          Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

          474 workers who have been in contact with infected birds tested, under surveillance, etc. No one has tested pos for bf.

          Google-translated from Arabic:

          In / statement of the Ministry of Health for bird flu

          Riyadh 10 is AH 1428 AH November 20, 2007 WAS

          Further to the Ministry of Health on avian influenza / H5N1 / and follow-up of the situation of epidemic of the disease in the Riyadh region, said the Ministry of Health that all workers contacts of infected birds since the emergence of the disease and number (474) factor has been the work of epidemiological survey them by the Working preventive medical affairs health Riyadh area to identify potential sources of infection were also Mnazerthm and detection as well as medical laboratory sampling and give them the necessary preventive treatment.

          The ministry said that so far there have been no cases of avian influenza in the case of persons where the results of all laboratory samples have been taken from contacts negative for avian influenza virus, thankfully.

          The ministry indicated that the disease is not transmitted from human to human, but has moved from birds infected with the disease live and dead to rights in cases of very limited direct friction noteworthy that the cases of human infections in the world since the discovery of the disease in in 2003 did not exceed the 335 cases of human level the world, which confirms that the chances of transmission to contacts of infected birds very weak.

          The ministry called on citizens and residents not to contact birds living and stresses the importance of cooking birds and eggs well in a temperature of not less than 70 degrees Celsius before addressed.

          The ministry is following closely the epidemiological situation and coordination with the governmental bodies concerned.

          ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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          • #50
            Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

            Suspicious poultry deaths in Hafr al-Batin, Ash-Sharqīyah (Eastern) province (i.e. not near Riyadh). I think someone bought 10 live chickens from this place and they died when he got them home. Tests taken -- no results yet. (First story on page.)

            Google-translated from Arabic:

            The execution of 60 thousand Surrounding rested Alhaer and reservation samples in the Hafr al-Batin
            Field teams to monitor places of birds in the capital
            Nov 21, 2007

            Riyadh, Hfralebatn, Dammam: Souad Zafar, Magda Abdel-Aziz, Hamidon al-Shamri, Said published

            Reserved security authorities digging and subcontractors Branch of the Ministry of Agriculture to preserve the one bird hangars located near the center Alvebih, after communication citizen.

            The author information on the hangar constructed of tin and wood works factor resident sells birds, rabbits after before slaughter, processing and movement of citizens.

            The police began the task of Agriculture and delegates from the municipal site and found that the hangar containing large numbers of birds, rabbits, chickens and ducks.

            Found inside the numbers of dead birds, requiring a reservation at the site and referral group to Hafr al-Batin police for investigation and ensure safety.

            As was closed hangar Commission recommended closing the reservation and in the inside, and the municipality of the province to address the execution of birds found and disposed of.

            "Al-Watan" that was found inside the hangar site relies Group in the skin and processing birds, poultry and rabbits for sale and found a large quantity of chickens and rabbits fetus at the site had been disposed of indiscriminately, in addition to the hangar at the site is far from the eyes of control and unlicensed.

            The Del Corral on the one chicken market, where dealers bought 10 chickens dead in his home on the day on which it bought from the hangar.

            ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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            • #51
              Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

              Originally posted by niman View Post
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              H5N1 in Riyadh Saudi Arabia

              Recombinomics Commentary
              November 18, 2007

              The emergence of these results coincided with the disclosure of cases of death of poultry birds inside the home in the Jerusalem district, which is located in north-eastern part of Riyadh, has not yet been identified causes that led to the death of the chickens.

              Al-Watan newspaper carried photographs of an agriculture ministry team in masks and white coats in the Aziziya market south of Riyadh, saying bird flu cases had been found there.

              The discovery comes just a few weeks before nearly 2 million faithful arrive for the annual haj pilgrimage season in Mecca.

              The above translation and report describes H5N1 outbreaks at multiple locations in Riyadh and suburbs. These outbreaks are in addition to the four outbreaks described in the OIE report (see satellite map) and raise new concerns about outbreaks in the area.

              Earlier, Egypt reported H5N1 in backyard farms in Minya, and Yemen has reported poultry deaths which have not been tested because of a lack of funds.

              At this time of the year migratory birds pass through the area. In December, 2005 H5N1 was detected in a healthy teal in the Nile Delta. However, most of the H5N1 in the nregion is detected in poultry farms which include large commercial farms as well as small backyard farms.

              Although human cases have not been recently reported, cases were detected in Egypt in 2006 as well as 2007, suggesting additional cases will be reported soon.

              As noted above, the recent reports of H5N1 in the region come shortly before the upcoming Haj.


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              • #52
                Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                Saudi policy -- not to vaccinate poultry. (Second story on page).

                Google-translated from Arabic:

                Agriculture deny the existence of a vaccine against bird flu
                Nov 21, 2007

                RIYADH: Magda Abdel-Aziz

                Denied, director general of the Department of Livestock, Ministry of Agriculture, Dr. Mohammed Algelevi of "Al-Watan" and a vaccine for avian assess disease avian influenza fierce and said "there is no vaccine against avian influenza We in the ministry do not encourage that there be birds have immunity and the other does not have immunity, but we to eradicate the disease avian influenza at its roots, adding that there is a vaccine for avian influenza is available and normal taken as vaccines, but fierce bird flu (H5N1) has no any effective vaccine so far, and in some States did not deal in it because it was not feasible but increased the death of some birds also happened in Egypt, pointing out that the ministry is the direct control of the situation does not resort to vaccines.

                He warned Algelevi, bird breeders in the home of a blend Tyoram strange effect only after ensuring the safety or retrieve from the house and returned again this as a preventive measure to preserve them from the disease, and noted symptoms that may occur to them, such as the inability of the birds fly, or Buckling in the neck The inaction and vision when these symptoms are reporting the operations room and taking a sample to prove free or not.

                He pointed out that the contingency plan prepared by the ministry sets hotbeds illness bird flu red circle radius 3 km away is disposed of the birds exist as a preventive measure for the safety of the region and non-transmission of the disease to other regions, and the yellow comes after diameter 5 kilometers been inspecting the existing birds, and this plan has already been prepared and tested implementation process and the participation of the four imaginary health, agriculture and the secretariat, security and so two years ago.

                The methods of killing poultry and disposal determined by the situation, in open places using foam, and vary with the type of chicken and who is the area where, normally used formaldehyde article or killing Balassagah electric or gas carbon dioxide, adding that the follow-up to the whereabouts of either birds or domesticated pet such as guest houses shops and pets are visited continuous sampling, detection, as he still rested Uncertain (neighborhood factories) is the first center to detect the disease under control.

                ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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                • #53
                  Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                  Saudi Arabia begins culling of chicken

                  By Mariam Al Hakeem, Correspondent

                  Published: November 20, 2007, 17:53


                  Riyadh: Municipal and agricultural bodies in Saudi Arabia have culled around 2 million chicken for suspicious of being infected by the deadly bird flu virus.

                  Last week, Saudi Arabia said that it has not discovered cases of bird flu in a farm in Al Kharj, 80 kms south of Riyadh. All the birds at the farm were subsequently culled and the area disinfected, with measures taken to ensure other farms in the area were not affected.

                  Saudi security forces and Red Crescent vehicles were seen at the site cordoning the area where several poultry farms are located. Subsequently, immunised workers culled and buried 1.8 million chickens.

                  Meanwhile, the Riyadh Municipality closed down 85 stalls for selling birds at the birds market in Aziziya to the south of Riyadh after reported cases of bird flu.

                  Dr. Falah Al Dossary, chairman of the ad hoc committee assigned to deal with the disease, said that the committee decided to cull all birds on sale at the market.

                  “The committee has closed down the market after suspicious cases of bird flu,” he told reporters.

                  Fear spread among workers at the market after the Ministry of Hhealth took their blood samples for screening.

                  Earlier, the Saudi health and agriculture authorities announced that beside cases of bird flu in Al Kharj, other cases were discovered in Duarma, 60km west of Riyadh, and Al Hayathem, 100km southwest of Riyadh.

                  In a related development, members of the Saudi Shoura (Consultative) Council, asked the agriculture and health ministers to give more details about the bird flu situation in the Kingdom.

                  They underlined the importance that facts and details should be announced to the public and that urgent steps should be taken to eradicate the disease.

                  The Saudi poultry breeders’ society called for a ban on the breeding of birds at homes, markets and recreational centres.

                  The committee board chairman, Abdullah Bin Bakr Qadi, said that the society would work hard for the issuance of such a decision.


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                  • #54
                    Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                    Saudi Arabia culls 3.5 million birds over deadly flu

                    Posted: 22 November 2007


                    RIYADH : Saudi Arabia's agriculture ministry said on Wednesday that more than 3.5 million birds have been culled or are in the process of being destroyed following an outbreak of bird flu.

                    "More than 3.5 million birds have been or are being culled since the first infection (with the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu) was detected" on November 12, said a statement carried by the official SPA news agency.

                    The ministry said new cases of bird flu had been detected in farms west and south of Riyadh.

                    The ministry has singled out migrant birds as the source of the disease, and stressed again on Wednesday the need to refrain from hunting them.

                    Saudi Arabia banned all live poultry imports after bird flu was last detected in the kingdom in March. In April, neighbouring Kuwait culled 1.7 million birds after the strain was found.

                    There are no reports of the disease spreading to humans in either country.

                    The H5N1 strain first emerged in Asia in 2003, and has caused some 205 deaths in humans, with Indonesia and Vietnam among the worst hit countries, according to World Health Organisation figures. - AFP/de

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                    • #55
                      Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                      Originally posted by Theresa42 View Post
                      Suspicious poultry deaths in Hafr al-Batin, Ash-Sharqīyah (Eastern) province (i.e. not near Riyadh). I think someone bought 10 live chickens from this place and they died when he got them home. Tests taken -- no results yet. (First story on page.)

                      Google-translated from Arabic:

                      The execution of 60 thousand Surrounding rested Alhaer and reservation samples in the Hafr al-Batin
                      Field teams to monitor places of birds in the capital
                      Nov 21, 2007

                      Riyadh, Hfralebatn, Dammam: Souad Zafar, Magda Abdel-Aziz, Hamidon al-Shamri, Said published

                      Reserved security authorities digging and subcontractors Branch of the Ministry of Agriculture to preserve the one bird hangars located near the center Alvebih, after communication citizen.

                      The author information on the hangar constructed of tin and wood works factor resident sells birds, rabbits after before slaughter, processing and movement of citizens.

                      The police began the task of Agriculture and delegates from the municipal site and found that the hangar containing large numbers of birds, rabbits, chickens and ducks.

                      Found inside the numbers of dead birds, requiring a reservation at the site and referral group to Hafr al-Batin police for investigation and ensure safety.

                      As was closed hangar Commission recommended closing the reservation and in the inside, and the municipality of the province to address the execution of birds found and disposed of.

                      "Al-Watan" that was found inside the hangar site relies Group in the skin and processing birds, poultry and rabbits for sale and found a large quantity of chickens and rabbits fetus at the site had been disposed of indiscriminately, in addition to the hangar at the site is far from the eyes of control and unlicensed.

                      The Del Corral on the one chicken market, where dealers bought 10 chickens dead in his home on the day on which it bought from the hangar.

                      http://www.alwatan.com.sa/news/newsd...=2609&id=29878
                      Inspections/testing continue in Ash Sharqiyah province. No bf found in the area so far. 176 reports of sick/dead birds in area. (Sixth story on page.)

                      Google-translated from Arabic:

                      6 Inspection teams and communications suspicion of reach 176

                      Branch Agriculture terminate inspection 90 poultry farm & Saturday
                      Nov 22, 2007

                      Dammam: Saad published

                      The branch manager of the Ministry of Agriculture, the Eastern Saad future of the "Al Watan" The inspection committees of the Ministry of Agriculture will complete the inventory and inspection of all poultry farms on the eastern region next Saturday after a 6 teams to visit the vet each to two farms included 90 poultry farm licensed the region, since to activate the program began inspections of poultry farms last Monday.

                      This came after the emergency meeting held yesterday afternoon at the headquarters branch of the Ministry of Agriculture city of Dammam.

                      He said next to the eastern region had not registered any cases of bird flu disease until the time of the news.

                      He pointed out that all the reports that the Ministry of Agriculture fled the region did not exceed suspected cases only.

                      He said that the meeting at which the distribution of roles and stress such as prohibiting the transfer of poultry to and from the eastern region within the jurisdiction of the security zone.

                      The meeting adopted a plan to intensify oversight to prevent bird hunting of all kinds, whether local or immigrant.

                      For his part, the director of inspection official file avian influenza region, Dr. Abdul Jabbar al-committees operate continuously around the clock since the beginning of the emergence of the disease in one of Al-Kharj farms.

                      He pointed out that the communications amounted to 176 filed during the current week has been dealing with it seriously later proved to be cases of natural disease unrelated to the bird flu.

                      He pointed out that more communications focused on the natural death of ducks in the bathroom, which is one of the most bird-resistant disease.

                      The recent claim of the media to contribute to the awareness of citizens and residents in how to deal with the disease and to differentiate between the suspect and injury based on the thesis veterinarians.

                      ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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                      • #56
                        Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                        Carrier-pigeons (pets?) dying in Riyadh -- follow article link for photos.

                        (A note for translators -- the Google-translator translated the word for "carrier-pigeon" [الحمام] as "bathroom" for some reason. It should be "carrier-pigeon" -- checked using lingvozone.com)


                        Google-translated from Arabic:

                        "Agriculture" is silent .. And panic among residents
                        Swarms of death "carrier-pigeon" over Amara commercial containing 100 apartments in Riyadh

                        Nov 23, 2007

                        Swarms of settles over the carrier-pigeon surfaces Amarah raises fears of the people of transmission of avian influenza

                        Riyadh-on Alroehli: lens-Bandar Bakhsh

                        The Ministry of Agriculture has ignored appeals apartment dwellers commercial containing 100 apartments in Al Khalidiyah Riyadh, after swarms of death in the carrier-pigeon skylights and roofs of Amarah, causing a state of panic among the population.

                        "Al-Riyadh" yesterday calls from affected asking distress after the Agriculture Ministry ignored their contacts-as saying.

                        Aside lens "Riyadh" death to the carrier-pigeon surfaces Amarah dealt with the situation in ways that primitive people were disposing of dead birds workshops surfaces Amarah nets can not know their suitability for the disposal of the effects of avian influenza.

                        He said residents of the "Riyadh": faced with the situation alone where the Ministry of Agriculture, some of us left his apartment, and others think are the same, we would like the emergency teams responsible for monitoring avian influenza pandemic to be with us, the situation is not likely to delay.

                        The Ministry of Agriculture has set up an emergency task force comprising 4 points governmental, to cope with an avian influenza pandemic, which kill farms and national projects, and published telephone numbers to receive communications people, but that, according to accounts affected that the ministry had not responded to repeated appeals.

                        The officials "Agriculture" has said on more than one occasion satellite channel and local newspapers that the ministry was ready for any communication or complaint, but that the statements have not been reassured by the people, not of calm appalled.

                        تجاهلت وزارة الزراعة نداءات قاطني عمارة تجارية تحوي 100شقة سكنية في حي الخالدية بالرياض، بعد نفوق اسراب من الحمام في مناور وأسطح العمارة، مسببة حالة من الذعر بين السكان. وتلقت
                        ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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                        • #57
                          Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                          Very interesting. This must be a distinctly different strain than the one tested in the St. Jude study. That study showed little tansmission by pigeons.



                          Originally posted by Theresa42 View Post
                          Carrier-pigeons (pets?) dying in Riyadh -- follow article link for photos.

                          (A note for translators -- the Google-translator translated the word for "carrier-pigeon" [الحمام] as "bathroom" for some reason. It should be "carrier-pigeon" -- checked using lingvozone.com)

                          Google-translated from Arabic:

                          "Agriculture" is silent .. And panic among residents
                          Swarms of death "carrier-pigeon" over Amara commercial containing 100 apartments in Riyadh
                          Nov 23, 2007

                          Swarms of settles over the carrier-pigeon surfaces Amarah raises fears of the people of transmission of avian influenza

                          Riyadh-on Alroehli: lens-Bandar Bakhsh

                          The Ministry of Agriculture has ignored appeals apartment dwellers commercial containing 100 apartments in Al Khalidiyah Riyadh, after swarms of death in the carrier-pigeon skylights and roofs of Amarah, causing a state of panic among the population.

                          "Al-Riyadh" yesterday calls from affected asking distress after the Agriculture Ministry ignored their contacts-as saying.

                          Aside lens "Riyadh" death to the carrier-pigeon surfaces Amarah dealt with the situation in ways that primitive people were disposing of dead birds workshops surfaces Amarah nets can not know their suitability for the disposal of the effects of avian influenza.

                          He said residents of the "Riyadh": faced with the situation alone where the Ministry of Agriculture, some of us left his apartment, and others think are the same, we would like the emergency teams responsible for monitoring avian influenza pandemic to be with us, the situation is not likely to delay.

                          The Ministry of Agriculture has set up an emergency task force comprising 4 points governmental, to cope with an avian influenza pandemic, which kill farms and national projects, and published telephone numbers to receive communications people, but that, according to accounts affected that the ministry had not responded to repeated appeals.

                          The officials "Agriculture" has said on more than one occasion satellite channel and local newspapers that the ministry was ready for any communication or complaint, but that the statements have not been reassured by the people, not of calm appalled.

                          http://www.alriyadh.com/2007/11/23/article296100.html
                          Please do not ask me for medical advice, I am not a medical doctor.

                          Avatar is a painting by Alan Pollack, titled, "Plague". I'm sure it was an accident that the plague girl happened to look almost like my twin.
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                          • #58
                            Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                            Originally posted by Shannon View Post
                            Very interesting. This must be a distinctly different strain than the one tested in the St. Jude study. That study showed little tansmission by pigeons.
                            The lab transmission studies are unfortunate, becasue they just show how the lab H5N1 is transmited under conditions which may or may not be common in nature.

                            There have been reports of H5N1 in pigeons, including the the Iraqi pigeon trader who died with bird flu symptoms (and his pigeons tested positive).

                            The above pigeons would be infected with Qinghai (clade 2.2). Below are public sequences of other major strains: clade 1 (Vietnam/Thailand), clade 2.1 (Indonesia), so three major H5N1 clades/sub-clades are represented (as well as an earlier strain from Hong Kong) and the dead pigeons didn't think they were "resistant" to H5N1.

                            When I saw the St Jude study, I just rolled my eyes and moved on



                            <LI type=square>Influenza A virus (A/Pigeon/Hong Kong/SF215/01 (H5N1)) <LI type=square>Influenza A virus (A/Pigeon/Indonesia/Rohkit1631-6/2006(H5N1)) <LI type=square>Influenza A virus (A/Pigeon/Indonesia/Rokhit1631-6/2006(H5N1)) <LI type=square>Influenza A virus (A/pigeon/Jakarta/Hen406/2006(H5N1)) <LI type=square>Influenza A virus (A/pigeon/Samut Prakan/Thailand/CU-202/04(H5N1)) <LI type=square>Influenza A virus (A/pigeon/Thailand/KU-03/04(H5N1)) <LI type=square>Influenza A virus (A/pigeon/Thailand/VSMU-25-BKK/2005(H5N1))

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                            • #59
                              Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                              Thanks Dr. Niman, I remember the pigeon trader death. No doubt it was wishful thinking on my part. Infected sky rats (pigeons) is a truly unfortunate scenario.
                              Please do not ask me for medical advice, I am not a medical doctor.

                              Avatar is a painting by Alan Pollack, titled, "Plague". I'm sure it was an accident that the plague girl happened to look almost like my twin.
                              Thank you,
                              Shannon Bennett

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                              • #60
                                Re: Lethal bird flu found in Saudi poultry farm

                                Originally posted by Shannon View Post
                                Thanks Dr. Niman, I remember the pigeon trader death. No doubt it was wishful thinking on my part. Infected sky rats (pigeons) is a truly unfortunate scenario.
                                It becomes even more unfortunate when agencies don't bother to test because pigeons are "resistant" to H5N1.

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