Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

[grandmother stonecoat]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

Please. NYC is up to 590 confirmed cases (goes up each day its reported) and upstate NY is filling up fast.

The numbers are probably staggering. CDC has told doctors and hospitals to STOP testing for swine flu unless all of the criteria are met, so that helps keep the numbers low. Not too many doctors are checking now at our hospital and clinic. Here is CDC criteria:

Testing for 2009 Influenza A H1N1 (Swine Flu) Virus


Specimens that meet criteria #1 AND criteria #2, #3, #4, OR #5 will be tested for Novel Influenza A (H1N1).


1. Patient has influenza-like illness (ILI) consisting of:
Temperature >100F or 37.8C AND
Sore throat or Cough
AND
2. Patient is hospitalized (other acute febrile respiratory illness may substitute for ILI in hospitalized patients)
3. Patient is at high risk of severe complications from infection. Includes: pregnant women, children under the age of 5 years, adults 65 years or older, or individuals with chronic underlying medical conditions
4. Patient is at high risk of spreading infection to others including health care workers with direct patient contact or patients living in group settings
5. Patient lives in a Utah community (city or town) where novel H1N1 disease has not previously been detected and has a positive screening influenza A result (or a positive influenza test result if the test does not differentiate influenza A from B) by Rapid Test (EIA) or DFA

Grandmother Stonecoat

[HenryN]

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The numbers are probably staggering. CDC has told doctors and hospitals to STOP testing for swine flu unless all of the criteria are met, so that helps keep the numbers low. Not too many doctors are checking now at our hospital and clinic. Here is CDC criteria:

Testing for 2009 Influenza A H1N1 (Swine Flu) Virus


Specimens that meet criteria #1 AND criteria #2, #3, #4, OR #5 will be tested for Novel Influenza A (H1N1).


1. Patient has influenza-like illness (ILI) consisting of:
Temperature >100F or 37.8C AND
Sore throat or Cough
AND
2. Patient is hospitalized (other acute febrile respiratory illness may substitute for ILI in hospitalized patients)
3. Patient is at high risk of severe complications from infection. Includes: pregnant women, children under the age of 5 years, adults 65 years or older, or individuals with chronic underlying medical conditions
4. Patient is at high risk of spreading infection to others including health care workers with direct patient contact or patients living in group settings
5. Patient lives in a Utah community (city or town) where novel H1N1 disease has not previously been detected and has a positive screening influenza A result (or a positive influenza test result if the test does not differentiate influenza A from B) by Rapid Test (EIA) or DFA

Grandmother Stonecoat

Yes, they tried all they could do to keep the numbers down, and still ended up with a hockey stick.

[gsgs]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

I'm just listening to TWIV35

http://www.twiv.tv/

hearing Vincent Racaniello say from NYC:
(I think) ****** will disappear soon in USA, I'd really surprised if there
were a summer epidemic in USA
here I think we are almost done
(TWIV35,~11min)


they also talked about the Olsen graphs and their disagreement with CDC

[jeanne]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

M**flu

i give. i looked on the acronym page but didn't see it. please spell it out for me.

[gsgs]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

not allowed here.
Just name the flu after the country or region where it first emerged.
As is usual with influenza

[colormyquilt]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

Welcome Grandmother Stonecoat. And thank you for the info from your part of the world.

[HenryN]

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i give. i looked on the acronym page but didn't see it. please spell it out for me.

This poster insists on calling the H1N1 swine flu the Mexican flu, even though the originating swine has not been identified, and the closest swine match to date is in Alberta, Canada (and the first identified human isolate was in southern California)!

[gsgs]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

first isolate 11.March, M**ico
CA-sequences not original.

A/M**ico/4115
A/M**ico/InDRE4487

remember niman discussing, why the Fujian strain were the Fujian strain
despite China complaining

[HenryN]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

I'm just listening to TWIV35

http://www.twiv.tv/

hearing Vincent Racaniello say from NYC:
(I think) ****** will disappear soon in USA, I'd really surprised if there
were a summer epidemic in USA
here I think we are almost done
(TWIV35,~11min)


they also talked about the Olsen graphs and their disagreement with CDC

I heard the flu part. He thinks the real level is 10X the detected level, which is several levels beyond absurd. He will also be "surprised" if swine H1N1 doesn't peter out "soon" in the US, and he thinks swine H1N1 is over in Mexico.

It should soon be obvious how "suprised" he is.

He also thinks that media coverage of a swine pandemic is hype.

Well into the clueless beyond hope category.

It is also noteworthy that they don't understand the difference between swine and seasonal flu, which helps explain their comments.

[gsgs]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

Mexico:

[gsgs]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

BTW. , he also said, that WHO will probably never declare
M**flu a (full) pandemic

[gsgs]

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decline in Canada: (?)

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/fluwatch/08-09/w21_09/index-eng.php

[Diane Morin]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

Donn?es plus fines pour le Qu?bec

Semaine 09-21 se terminant le 30 mai 2009

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• 90 cas positifs pour le virus de l'influenza A
• 3 cas positifs pour le virus de l'influenza B
• 0 cas positif pour le virus para-influenza 1
• 0 cas positif pour le virus para-influenza 2
• 10 cas positifs pour le virus para-influenza 3

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• 0 cas positif pour le virus para-influenza 4
• 15 cas positifs pour le virus respiratoire syncytial
• 8 cas positifs pour l'ad?novirus
• 11 cas positifs pour le m?tapneumo virus humain
• 1 cas positif pour le coronavirus commun

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01 : Bas St-Laurent
02 : Saguenay Lac-St-Jean
03 : Qu?bec
04 : Mauricie-Bois-Francs
05 : Estrie
06 : Montr?al
07 : Outaouais
08 : Abitibi-T?miscamingue
09 : C?te-Nord
10 : Nord-du-Qu?bec
11 : Gasp?sie-Iles-de-la-Madeleine
12 : Chaudi?re-Appalaches
13 : Laval
14 : Lanaudi?re
15 : Laurentides
16 : Mont?r?gie
17 : Nunavik
18 : Terres-Cries-de-la-Baie-James
Point rouge () sur la carte =

de 1 ? 5 tests positifs d'influenza A

Point bleu () sur la carte =

de 1 ? 5 tests positifs d'influenza B

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D?tails pour la semaine :
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=ContenusEspaces align=left width=250>09-21 se terminant le 30 mai 2009 </TD><TD class=ContenusEspaces align=left> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

http://www.inspq.qc.ca/dossiers/influenza/surveillance/DonneesHebdo.asp?DS=Inf&DS2=2&DS3=3&AnneeProgramme =2008-2009

[jeanne]

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not allowed here.
Just name the flu after the country or region where it first emerged.
As is usual with influenza

oh duh. generic ethnic flu. whatever.

[HenryN]

Re: Swine H1N1 Explosion in United States

first isolate 11.March, M**ico
CA-sequences not original.

A/M**ico/4115
A/M**ico/InDRE4487

remember niman discussing, why the Fujian strain were the Fujian strain
despite China complaining

Please. The sequences in Mexico and California were virtually identical and isolates a few WEEKS apart. No one was looking for swine H1N1 in California in early March and a few weeks difference in isolation dates means nothing.
In addition, the swine seqiuences in Alberta are close and suggest sequences were widespread in swine, but not well monitored.
Fujian of 2005 evolved from Fujian isolates of 2003 and were unique and just in China.
Many call Fujian Fujian. No one calls swine H1N1 Mexican because there is only VERY weak support and many unknowns..