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AFD - When The `Flu? Isn?t The Flu

Rwilmer

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When The `Flu? Isn?t The Flu




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A very interesting report this morning out of Philadelphia, where tests showed that as many as 40% of the people reporting to the ED (Emergency Department) of a local hospital in early fall with `the flu? actually had a Rhinovirus instead.

With more than 100 different Rhinovira identified, these viruses ? often referred to as `the common cold? ? produce the majority of respiratory illness in the world.

They normally take residence in our upper respiratory tract and can make us miserable for a week or more.

But according to doctors at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, the strain of Rhinovirus circulating in Philadelphia this fall produced unusually severe symptoms:

Besides the sheer numbers of rhinovirus, Coffin was surprised that it was causing more problems - wheezing, pneumonia, fever, and lower-respiratory-tract infections - than are normally associated with the common cold, which typically infects the upper respiratory tract.

That has led her to suspect that a strain not seen here before may be responsible. The CDC's lab will attempt to identify the strain.
If all of this sounds vaguely familiar, it is because we recently discussed this very issue; the idea that not everyone who thinks they?ve had swine flu over the past 6 months really did.

Even during the height of flu season, at least half of all ILI?s (influenza-like-illnesses) are probably caused by something other than influenza. Perhaps metapneumovirus, parainfluenzavirus, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), one of the myriad Rhinoviruses (Common cold), or adenovirus.

This chart (see ILI?s Aren?t Always The Flu) from early October show more than 70% of samples tested by the CDC came back negative for influenza.




As I pointed out in October, the reason for bringing all of this up ? besides the fact that it is interesting ? is really two-fold.

First, since many of these milder ILI?s are commonly perceived by the public as being the `flu?, many people have a false perception of what having real influenza can be like.


That `mild swine flu? infection last September, that convinced your family that this pandemic is much to do about nothing, may not have been swine flu after all.

And second, it is entirely possible that some of the people who suspect that they?ve already had the pandemic virus over the summer or last spring ? and would therefore be immune ? really had one of the other commonly circulating respiratory viruses.


Which means that they may not have acquired the protective antibodies they think they have.

Two things to consider, now that the H1N1 vaccine is becoming more widely available.

The article, of which I?ve just posted an excerpt, is well worth reading in its entirety.


Posted on Thu, Nov. 12, 2009
Tests show fall outbreak is rhinovirus, not swine flu

By Don Sapatkin
Inquirer Staff Writer
I had swine flu. It is almost a badge of honor, suggesting that the speaker survived the first pandemic of the 21st century and is immune to the next wave.

It also may be wrong.

Tests at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia suggest that large numbers of people who got sick this fall actually fell victim to a sudden, unusually severe - and continuing - outbreak of rhinovirus, better known as a key cause of the common cold.

Experts say it is logistically and financially impossible to test everyone with flulike symptoms. And signs, treatment, and prognoses for a bad cold and a mild flu are virtually identical, so the response hardly differs.

But the finding may send an important message to parents who (despite doctors' recommendations) are questioning the need to immunize their children against swine flu because they seemed to have already had the disease, said Susan Coffin, director of infection prevention and control at Children's Hospital.

"Maybe their child is still susceptible to H1N1 and should still get the vaccine," Coffin said.

For years, rhinoviruses have been the Rodney Dangerfields of microbes. Even major institutions have found plenty of reasons not to pay them much mind. They are exceedingly common, they cause mere colds, they come in hundreds of hard-to-identify strains that make testing a challenge, and there is no effective treatment anyway.

Neither the federal government nor the states track rhinoviruses in the way they do "surveillance" for influenza, based on samplings of doctor diagnoses, emergency-room visits, and lab reports. Children's Hospital of Philadelphia is one of the few institutions that routinely checks for them whenever it tests for influenza and other viruses.

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Re: AFD - When The `Flu? Isn?t The Flu

Herd Immunity or Herd Behavior—H1N1 “The Perfect Storm”

Comparing numbers on the MMRW’s for the past ten years, one thing stands out…there is not an increase in US “total deaths” (any cause which includes P&I) compared to previous years’ deaths. The CDC will now use a “new estimate made by combining deaths from laboratory-confirmed cases of the flu and deaths that appear to be brought on by flu, even though the patient may have ultimately died of bacterial pneumonia, other infections or organ failure.” A death is a death, whether it’s listed as H1N1, bacterial pneumonia, heart disease, etc. The cause may change, but the total does not. http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132099&page=2

Could we be seeing signs of mass sociogenic illness? R. Bartholomew and S. Wessley define mass sociogenic illness (MSI) as the “rapid spread of illness signs and symptoms affecting members of a cohesive group, originating from a nervous system disturbance involving excitation, loss or alteration of function, whereby physical complaints that are exhibited unconsciously have no corresponding organic aetiology.” “Uncertainty and fear after disasters commonly generate psychogenic symptoms such as hyperventilation, headache and nausea, which may be difficult to distinguish from the early stages of a chemical, biological or nuclear attack.” And, while this pandemic is of organic aetiology, might what we be seeing with the increasing ILI be something similar to this type of effect? With no apparent increase in “total deaths” by any cause, why are ILI’s so high? http://bjp.rcpsyhwich.org/cgi/content/full/180/4/300

Throughout time, numerous incidents of mass hysteria have been reported. The CDC reported on a daycare incident in July of 1989. “Onset of symptoms occurred within 2-40 minutes after lunch and included abdominal cramps (77%), nausea (75%), headache (51%), dizziness (30%), malaise (30%), and sore throat (11%). MSI was the suggested diagnosis by hospital physicians after children were examined on July 26. After the epidemiologic investigation, health department officials concurred with the diagnosis.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmWR/preview/mmwrhtml/00001618.htm

While many cases of H1N1 warrant immediate attention because of underlying conditions, people have been told this is a “National Emergency” and a pandemic, possibly comparible to 1918. We are told that it comes on suddenly. We are told to seek Tamiflu within the first 48 hours to receive beneficial results. We are told people are dying. How do they expect us to react?
 
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