kent nickell
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I like this comment on why deflation is a bigger reality than the prospect of hyperinflation. I like his concept that insolvency is the problem and that the definition of solvency based on credit is a misperception. If you consider that people were using money from home equity loans and credit cards to keep cash flow for purchases going and then all of this stopped and all the 'markers' got called in the balance sheet would often be negative. Then add to that the decreasing value of the actual assets like home prices and then decreasing stock prices and people cannot continue to consume to support the economy. I think a lot ot the bailout money is being used by banks to try and regain solvency. A return to solvency by banks, companies and individuals that does not depend on credit (or at least will depend on reasonable credit) will be very deflationary but lead eventually to more stability and sustainability. I think the bailouts however need to be carefully crafted to try and attain this new sustainable economic pattern and to mitigate the social consequences of this readjustment..
"""Wow Roubini is back to sounding more bearish all the time. I think even he sees that nothing the Fed or the Treasury or the world central banks can do will turn back the economic tsunami we face. Simply put, they cannot create capital, they can only create credit. However, credit and liquidity are not the problem. Solvency is. Or rather the definition of solvency. We allowed the definition of solvency to become that an entity had enough access to credit to satisfy cash flow. Therefore, many (most?) entities are not solvent when you look at a more traditional method of measuring it (say the balance sheet, for instance).
Therefore, the continued application of bailouts aimed at increasing credit (like funding GMAC so they can 'lend again') will not work. Because the consumers they want to borrow are insolvent. And in fact, they have been insolvent for a very long time. They are insolvent, they are finally realizing it, and they will not be buying a car anytime soon. They realize that borrowing to buy a car is just about the last thing they would consider right now.
This is why the deleveraging is and will continue to be so painful. Because, like frogs in a pot, we have reached a fatal boiling point, and we never even realized our jeopardy until way too late. No surprise NR is bearish, in my opinion."""
Nouriel Roubini: Project Syndicate has just published my latest column titled ?Will Banks and Financial Markets Recover in 2009?? The simple answer to this question is no.
http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roub...l_banks_and_financial_markets_recover_in_2009
(Roubini thinks that we may see some mild recovery in 2010 and 2011. Nicolas Taleb considers Roubini an optimist and thinks there is much deleveraging to go)
"""Wow Roubini is back to sounding more bearish all the time. I think even he sees that nothing the Fed or the Treasury or the world central banks can do will turn back the economic tsunami we face. Simply put, they cannot create capital, they can only create credit. However, credit and liquidity are not the problem. Solvency is. Or rather the definition of solvency. We allowed the definition of solvency to become that an entity had enough access to credit to satisfy cash flow. Therefore, many (most?) entities are not solvent when you look at a more traditional method of measuring it (say the balance sheet, for instance).
Therefore, the continued application of bailouts aimed at increasing credit (like funding GMAC so they can 'lend again') will not work. Because the consumers they want to borrow are insolvent. And in fact, they have been insolvent for a very long time. They are insolvent, they are finally realizing it, and they will not be buying a car anytime soon. They realize that borrowing to buy a car is just about the last thing they would consider right now.
This is why the deleveraging is and will continue to be so painful. Because, like frogs in a pot, we have reached a fatal boiling point, and we never even realized our jeopardy until way too late. No surprise NR is bearish, in my opinion."""
Nouriel Roubini: Project Syndicate has just published my latest column titled ?Will Banks and Financial Markets Recover in 2009?? The simple answer to this question is no.
http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roub...l_banks_and_financial_markets_recover_in_2009
(Roubini thinks that we may see some mild recovery in 2010 and 2011. Nicolas Taleb considers Roubini an optimist and thinks there is much deleveraging to go)