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Discussion - Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

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Doctors are being warned to prepare for a second, "much worse" wave of swine flu hitting Britain in the autumn, the Health Secretary has disclosed.


By John Bingham and Auslan Cramb
Last Updated: 8:12PM BST 03 May 2009
Alan Johnson: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson
Alan Johnson said the current swine flu outbreak could be followed by 'something much more serious' Photo: (PA: Stefan Rousseau)

Alan Johnson said that the lesson of past pandemics was that initially mild outbreaks had been followed by something "much more serious".

His comments came as the number of confirmed cases of swine flu in Britain rose to 18, including two children, with as many as 716 possible patients now being tested.

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Meanwhile the Health Protection Agency confirmed that a Mexican pilot was one of the 18 cases in Britain. He has since left the country.

An independent school in London has been closed after a 14-year-old girl contracted the virus from a traveller who had recently returned from Mexico, in the third known case of person-to-person transmission inside the UK.

Jenny Stephen, headmistress of South Hampstead High School, wrote to parents to announce that it would be closed until at least Thursday, cancelling the leavers' ball, after a Year Nine pupil became infected.

An 11-year-old girl from Wandsworth, south London, also tested positive after a trip to America although her school did not need to close as she did not attend classes while showing symptoms.

Meanwhile passengers who travelled on a domestic British flight with a man from Ayrshire who was infected in the United States have been urged to contact the NHS.

The man, the fourth confirmed case in Scotland after the honeymoon couple Iain and Dawn Askham and their friend Graeme Pacitti, took a Flybe flight from Birmingham to Glasgow last Thursday on his return from Texas.

At least two Australians are in quarantine in London after being diagnosed with the swine flu virus after returning to Britain from separate holidays in Mexico last week.

Mark Robertson, 23, a marketing manager from Sydney has been ordered to stay in his flat in Islington, north London, for the next four days. He contracted the virus on a Mexican beach holiday at the end of a four-month trip to Central and South America. His flatmates, one Australian and one Brit, have also been told to stay indoors.

A 29-year-old builder from Sydney has also been told to stay home after being confirmed as having the H1N1 virus after attending a wedding in Mexico.

A third Australian, Kate Corbett, a journalist, is awaiting test results after returning to London from the same wedding.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) last week issued a "level five" alert for the virus, meaning that a full pandemic is "imminent".

But in Mexico, the epicentre of the global outbreak, the health minister, Jose Angel Cordova, said that the disease now appeared to be in its "declining phase" in the country where there have been more than 500 confirmed cases. Despite the growing number of cases in the UK, Mr Johnson claimed that the outbreak appeared to be "contained".

But he warned that there was "absolutely no doubt" that there would be more new cases.

He said that previous pandemics had been characterised by a "second phase"

"This is a new virus, it has never been seen before," he told the BBC.

"People talk about Sars and bird flu, and that was never the subject of a WHO alert, and we are now at stage five of an alert.

"Our evidence from all previous pandemics is you get two phases. So you get a first wave which is often very mild and then you get a much more serious wave that comes along in the autumn and the winter.

"So we have to not just deal with this outbreak now but prepare perhaps for a second phase further down the line."

Urging people to "have a good bank holiday" he added: "So far ? because we've managed to get to people to isolate it, we've got the stock of antivirals for them and their families and the people they have met ? I think it is contained.

"There will be more cases ... there's absolutely no doubt of that, but at the moment all the evidence is we can confine it, contain it and treat it effectively."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/s...yet-to-come-in-autumn-warns-Alan-Johnson.html
 
Re: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

Re: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

That is one of the problems people think because it is mild at the moment there is nothing to worry about.people i have spoken too think it is no worse than a bad cold,and have no intention of getting prepared for a second wave.
 
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Re: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

This is probably going to be the case. My 87 year old friend who is just recovering from this flu is happy because he believes he may have a little immunity now against the "big" one in the fall. He's a doctor.
 
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Re: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

I understand the goverments point of view that they dont want people to panic. But I hope that one month from now on they will really start warning people about the Autumn and making sure people actually prepare for it.
 
Re: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

Re: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

This is probably going to be the case. My 87 year old friend who is just recovering from this flu is happy because he believes he may have a little immunity now against the "big" one in the fall. He's a doctor.

Hello Pam.

Very good that he make it well at his 87.

Seems that the pattern of this virus is "all".

If you want to share with us this info: is it known how he got the infection; did he was admitted at the hospital at the begining of the simptoms; and did he get Tamiflu/... in the first 2 days of onset?

Thank you.
 
Re: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

Re: Swine flu: the worst is yet to come in autumn, warns Alan Johnson

I understand the goverments point of view that they dont want people to panic. But I hope that one month from now on they will really start warning people about the Autumn and making sure people actually prepare for it.

Interesting point, and one I think about often. I personally am of the belief that most people will ignore this thing until it is too late. I also believe that humanity is mostly a herd sport, and the masses are going to move rapidly once someone shouts "Fire". Now, if "Fire" is shouted once this thing is already severely under way - and AT SOME POINT IT WILL BE AND CANNOT BE AVOIDED - then it's going to be too late, and it's even going to make the situation worse.

So when people accuse me of panic mongering now - I've decided I don't care. Might even be a public service to start a mini panic rush to get people taking this seriously NOW, and start taking steps to stock up on some things, have good plans in place etc... Worst case scenario being that there is a lull in the action before the real "FIRE" is shouted out. But at that point, the buying/preparation has been spread out over time in waves as well - meaning more people HAVE than HAVE NOT. And that is going to be a big deal - because I still think it is possible that social issues secondary to the actual disease could end up being just as big a negative factor as the disease itself.

So I say nothing is wrong with a little bit of mini waves of panic if it serves to phase preparation efforts in. I mean we're talking about 6 Bilion People Here! Even Walmart can't stock enough for that many people at once! :)
 
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