Commonground
Senior Moderator
My concern, is if NAMRU leaves, they will lose a very valuable source in a quick diagnosis of easily transmitted bf. In their simulation, and I have to assume it will be their protocal, they suspect h2h between Nov. 9 thru 11. They get the results back on Nov. 14th. They would have to send those samples to a WHO approved lab. The simulation does not specify when their "consultation with WHO" declares a phase increase. From what I have seen now, the results would take much longer to get back. And then, you have to make sure it's from an approved WHO lab. Right now they are sending them to labs within Indo, and from the article, they don't seem to be WHO approved. From the second article below:
Link to Agenda:
http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2008/04/agenda-for-the.html
Pull out Izin [permission/consent/approval] Penelitian [studying/analyzing] Al America
Around 50 people who were bundled into the Forum for the Motherland Defence Counsel (Forpeta) asked the government to pull out Penelitian Unit permission the health of the United States Navy (Naval Medical Research Unit -- NAMRU) operated again in Indonesia.
NAMRU it was worried about only benefitted the US interests.
"We asked for the government to stress did not give permission again to NAMRU because his presence did not give the benefit to the Indonesian people.
Everything had rumours of this weapon to develop biological weapons," said the Azril Effendi action co-ordinator, in front of the main gate of the People's Representative Council Building, Street Gatot Subroto, Jakarta, on Monday (21-4).
According to Azril, Departement of the Health must dare to cancel agreements with NAMRU if being felt does not give the benefit for Indonesia and the people generally.
The member the Commission of I People's Representative Council Effendi Choiri that was through in front of the People's Representative Council Building supported the demand of the demonstrators.
If being gotten by strong proof the NAMRU existence only for the US interests, according to Effendi, NAMRU must retreat from Indonesia.
The government, according to Effendi, also must unload the intelligence body to detect further the NAMRU activity in Indonesia.
"Kalau [if/when/on the condition that] quite true his existence did not benefit everything sowed discord, I supported the stopping of the agreement.
The government must unload his intelligence body to know this matter," said Effendi.
In his action, the demonstrators brought several banners that be inscribed, "Reject Permission NAMRU", "Agreement Cancelled", "Department of Health Clear", et cetera.
This action will be continued to the Department of Health Office in Street H.R. Rauna Said.
Coordinating Minister Bidang Politik, Hukum, and the Security (Polhukam) Widodo A.S. in the working meeting of the Co-ordinator the Polhukam Field of the Ministry's rank with the Commission of I People's Representative Council in Jakarta, on Monday (21-4), said the Indonesian Government currently holds investigation towards the extension plan of the work agreement to be the same as the research laboratory belonging to the United States Navy (NAMRU-2).
"Currently was done by technical discussions of level discussions how will be followed up, was extended or not," said he.
Responded to the NAMRU existence, he hoped all the sides could think clear and objective because although the NAMRU existence has made a contribution positive for the Department of the Health (the Department of Health) RI.
However, added Widodo, must have deep consideration to extend the work was the same as NAMRU related the national Indonesian interests, like the problem of the security et cetera.
Because, the technical team that was chaired Foreign Affairs Department RI studied to discuss matters of the principle in the extension of the work was the same as NAMRU.
In the meantime, Komisi I People's Representative Council Theo L. Sambuaga Chairman said his side asked the government to evaluate the work was the same as NAMRU. "If the NAMRU existence did not give the significant benefit for Indonesia in fact tended damaging, better the co-operation was stopped," said he.
The RI agreement with NAMRU the last time was extended in January 2006 with the period one year.
Uptil now the NAMRU presence really helped in the periodic monitoring and the control of infectious diseases through to the research in the level of molecular biology.
The focus of his research concerning the tropical disease spread, in part concerning dengue fever, malaria, the HIV, cholera, the fever tifoid, hepatitis, and the bird flu virus.
Together with spread him the case of bird flu in the Motherland, the NAMRU side also was involved in the inspection of the patient's specimen that was expected infected the illness virus.
NAMRU also became one of the Health laboratories of the World of Body reconciliation (WHO) in Asia, apart from the WHO laboratory in Hong Kong and Central Diseases Control (CDC).
The member the Pertahanan Commission and foreign the People's Representative Council, Yuddy Chrisnandi, asked for the government supervised tight the NAMRU achievement 2.
His cause for more than 30 NAMRU years 2 in Indonesia, there were no transparency of their achievement.
http://www.lampungpost.com/cetak/berita.php?id=2008042200530547
NAMRU also became one of the Health laboratories of the World of Body reconciliation (WHO) in Asia, apart from the WHO laboratory in Hong Kong and Central Diseases Control (CDC).
Link to Agenda:
http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2008/04/agenda-for-the.html
Simulation Agenda:
The narrative starts at the beginning of October. Activities from October to November 07 are described in the prologue. Activities from November 09, 2007 to December 10, 2007 will be simulated within the 3-days of the exercise:
Exercise Day-1 illustrates the simulation timeframe from November 09-11, 2007. During this time period, epidemiologic investigations in the community and health care facilities will identify patients with suspect human to human transmission.
Exercise Day-2 illustrates the simulation timeframe from November 12-14, 2007. During this time frame, the Regent and their stakeholders will initiate necessary preventive efforts, occurring during November 12-14, 2007.
Exercise Day-3 illustrates the simulation timeframe from November 14-December 10, 2007. On November 14, 2007, virological results indicate that the H5N1 virus has mutated to a form that allows efficient human to human transmission. After WHO consultation with the Government of Indonesia, it is decided that the global pandemic alert phase will now be changed from phase 3 to phase 4 (in Indonesia: this is categorized as Phase 4/5B describing an epicenter within Indonesia). The government will operate the epicenter containment and quarantine efforts from November 14 until there are no additional cases found within 2 weeks period since the last case (in this simulation it will happen on December 10, 2007).
During this time, the ports (land, sea and air) will actively operate perimeter control on human and logistic traffic departing from the containment area.
The simulation exercise will end at the time of withdrawal of area quarantine and announcement of successful containment of the pandemic influenza epicenter.
Pull out Izin [permission/consent/approval] Penelitian [studying/analyzing] Al America
Around 50 people who were bundled into the Forum for the Motherland Defence Counsel (Forpeta) asked the government to pull out Penelitian Unit permission the health of the United States Navy (Naval Medical Research Unit -- NAMRU) operated again in Indonesia.
NAMRU it was worried about only benefitted the US interests.
"We asked for the government to stress did not give permission again to NAMRU because his presence did not give the benefit to the Indonesian people.
Everything had rumours of this weapon to develop biological weapons," said the Azril Effendi action co-ordinator, in front of the main gate of the People's Representative Council Building, Street Gatot Subroto, Jakarta, on Monday (21-4).
According to Azril, Departement of the Health must dare to cancel agreements with NAMRU if being felt does not give the benefit for Indonesia and the people generally.
The member the Commission of I People's Representative Council Effendi Choiri that was through in front of the People's Representative Council Building supported the demand of the demonstrators.
If being gotten by strong proof the NAMRU existence only for the US interests, according to Effendi, NAMRU must retreat from Indonesia.
The government, according to Effendi, also must unload the intelligence body to detect further the NAMRU activity in Indonesia.
"Kalau [if/when/on the condition that] quite true his existence did not benefit everything sowed discord, I supported the stopping of the agreement.
The government must unload his intelligence body to know this matter," said Effendi.
In his action, the demonstrators brought several banners that be inscribed, "Reject Permission NAMRU", "Agreement Cancelled", "Department of Health Clear", et cetera.
This action will be continued to the Department of Health Office in Street H.R. Rauna Said.
Coordinating Minister Bidang Politik, Hukum, and the Security (Polhukam) Widodo A.S. in the working meeting of the Co-ordinator the Polhukam Field of the Ministry's rank with the Commission of I People's Representative Council in Jakarta, on Monday (21-4), said the Indonesian Government currently holds investigation towards the extension plan of the work agreement to be the same as the research laboratory belonging to the United States Navy (NAMRU-2).
"Currently was done by technical discussions of level discussions how will be followed up, was extended or not," said he.
Responded to the NAMRU existence, he hoped all the sides could think clear and objective because although the NAMRU existence has made a contribution positive for the Department of the Health (the Department of Health) RI.
However, added Widodo, must have deep consideration to extend the work was the same as NAMRU related the national Indonesian interests, like the problem of the security et cetera.
Because, the technical team that was chaired Foreign Affairs Department RI studied to discuss matters of the principle in the extension of the work was the same as NAMRU.
In the meantime, Komisi I People's Representative Council Theo L. Sambuaga Chairman said his side asked the government to evaluate the work was the same as NAMRU. "If the NAMRU existence did not give the significant benefit for Indonesia in fact tended damaging, better the co-operation was stopped," said he.
The RI agreement with NAMRU the last time was extended in January 2006 with the period one year.
Uptil now the NAMRU presence really helped in the periodic monitoring and the control of infectious diseases through to the research in the level of molecular biology.
The focus of his research concerning the tropical disease spread, in part concerning dengue fever, malaria, the HIV, cholera, the fever tifoid, hepatitis, and the bird flu virus.
Together with spread him the case of bird flu in the Motherland, the NAMRU side also was involved in the inspection of the patient's specimen that was expected infected the illness virus.
NAMRU also became one of the Health laboratories of the World of Body reconciliation (WHO) in Asia, apart from the WHO laboratory in Hong Kong and Central Diseases Control (CDC).
The member the Pertahanan Commission and foreign the People's Representative Council, Yuddy Chrisnandi, asked for the government supervised tight the NAMRU achievement 2.
His cause for more than 30 NAMRU years 2 in Indonesia, there were no transparency of their achievement.
http://www.lampungpost.com/cetak/berita.php?id=2008042200530547