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Smoking, the "underlying condition"?

sbrooks

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I just read the story of the Ordeal of the pregnant woman, what a thing to go through! I'm thankful she survived. the first line reports she had "no health risks other than a smoking habit".

Now I wonder does anybody know in hospitalized cases of adults with h1n1
what percent are smokers?

Also what was the smoking rate in 1918? Could that have had a lot to do with the respiratory deaths?
If this is a high risk category I haven't heard it mentioned.
 
Re: Smoking, the "underlying condition"?

I've wondered if that could be playing a part in at least some of the otherwise unexplained bad outcomes.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601202&sid=aSs9.rvfo7g8
Smokers Risk Swine Flu Complications Like Pneumonia, Data Show


By Jason Gale

Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- "Smokers may be prone to developing life-threatening complications from swine flu, according to patient data from Hong Kong, where tobacco use was noted in almost half of severe cases.

Twelve of 27 swine flu patients who developed pneumonia and other serious illnesses were either current or former smokers and some had no other known risk factors, Thomas Tsang, acting controller of Hong Kong?s Centre for Health Protection, told a medical meeting in Beijing yesterday.

?The proportion of smokers among the serious cases is pretty high,? Tsang said in an interview. ?So far this is just one observation that stands out and we need to investigate it.?

Tsang?s findings may shed more light on a mystery that doctors are grappling with: why the new flu remains mild for a majority of people and is severe enough to kill in others. Worldwide, about 1,800 people infected with H1N1 have died since the virus was discovered in April.

In Hong Kong, about 1 in 200 people who tested positive for swine flu developed severe disease, with some needing weeks of intensive-care treatment. About 13 percent of adults in the city smoke, Tsang said at a meeting on influenza over the weekend organized by the Lancet medical journal, China?s health ministry and the World Health Organization.

As drugmakers race to make vaccines to fight the pandemic, health officials are trying to identify vulnerable groups in order to prioritize who should get immunized first.

In Hong Kong, three-quarters of H1N1 patients with serious disease had medical factors that made them more susceptible, Tsang said. Chronic lung conditions such as asthma and emphysema, as well as diabetes, cardiovascular disease, morbid obesity and pregnancy, can put people at risk. Smoking might be linked with one or more of these factors, according to Tsang.

Nicotine Helps Virus

?Smokers tend to have poorer lung function and smoking is also associated with some other chronic diseases,? Tsang said. ?It could be those factors that explain the association rather than smoking per se.?

Smoking is the biggest preventable cause of death and claims 4.9 million lives a year globally, according to the WHO. The habit is also the leading cause of illness and premature deaths in Hong Kong, according to a statement on the city- state?s Tobacco Control Office Web site. An estimated 5,500 deaths a year result from smoking, the agency said.

Nicotine, the addiction-causing chemical in tobacco, interferes with the immune response to seasonal flu, said John Mackenzie, a Melbourne-based virologist who studied the interaction in mouse models more than 30 years ago.

Invading the Lungs

?Smoking is interesting,? Mackenzie said in an interview in Beijing yesterday. ?It initially enhances the immune system, but then it depresses it. If you smoke, you become much more susceptible to straight viral pneumonia.?

By impeding the body?s defense mechanisms, smoking may enable the virus to replicate undetected for longer and invade more of the respiratory tract, said Frederick Hayden, professor of clinical virology at the University of Virginia School of Medicine in Charlottesville, in an interview yesterday.

?There are some epidemiologic observations to show that smokers have a more serious illness from seasonal influenza,? he said. ?Some of these factors have been recognized in the past, and I think we?re seeing them reaffirmed. I?d be surprised if it didn?t eventually turn out to be a risk factor.?

Bad Luck

The pandemic strain may have a greater predilection than seasonal flu for infecting the lungs, where it can cause viral pneumonia, said Stephen Toovey, a senior research fellow at London?s Royal Free and University College Medical School.

It?s possible bad luck and a person?s genetics may also play a role, Toovey said in an interview in Beijing.

Taking a deep breath or yawning immediately after an infected person nearby coughs or sneezes could enable large amounts of airborne viral particles to reach the lower branches of the airway, he said.

?It could be that if you do get enough virus by whatever route into the lower respiratory tract, you are more likely to have severe disease than you would with, say, a seasonal virus,? Toovey said.

Researchers are studying whether certain genetic flaws hamper the so-called early innate immune response, giving the virus an advantage over the body?s defenses, Toovey said. "
 
Re: Smoking, the "underlying condition"?

The CDC is still silent as far as I know about the risks of smoking with the flu.

Anyway, the military knows that people exposed to smoke are in for a bad time, even if the CDC isn't aware.

http://www.health.mil/dhb/afeb/meeting/021704meeting/Transcript%20-%20February%2017%202004.pdf
DR. GARDNER: Pierce Gardner. Do we know -- thinking of things that we know influence a response to our immunogens. For instance, in most studies smoking has been a detriment in terms of antibody responses. We know that age certainly is a problem. We know that in young children they don't respond very well to polysaccharide antigens. Can you fit some of those into this wonderful equation you've set up here?
DR. HACKETT: Yeah. You know, the smoking I think is definitely -- with the Legionnaire's study it showed toll-like receptor 5 was one of the -- a mutation in that gave you a proclivity to have a more serious disease. I think smoking actually was even worse. So these -- I don't know what the effect is.
I think that my belief is that whatever kinds of factors we're looking at, if it's age or if it's an environmental factor, you have to start looking at the innate immune system. You can't just say it's bad for your tissues, it's bad for what in the tissues? And I think it merits looking at the dendritic cells, the macrophages and seeing -- you know, it is possible -- the innate immune system is so highly regulated that the responses have to be controlled. We have to come to terms with our own normal flora and I think also to environmental hazards. So I think it is possible to down-regulate your innate immune system. We know it's possible from experimental studies. You give enough -- it's the same thing, your body says we're not going to put out that receptor anymore for that innate immune stimulus. So I think that's one way of looking at some environmental hazards like smoking. Say does it down-regulate some of these toll-like molecules and then make you less capable of making a response to a vaccine adjuvant or a vaccine adjuvant like activity.
 
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Re: Smoking, the "underlying condition"?

Whether the "underlying condition" guidelines are re-vamped or not, people should be paying attention to things other than the 3 most commonly mentioned.

This is from a recent WHO update: :
* A significant portion of patients with severe disease requiring intensive care had no predisposing conditions. The numbers are not directly comparable as the studies categorized conditions differently but nearly 1/3 of ICU patients in Australia and New Zealand had no predisposing conditions. 98% of ICU cases in Canada had a comorbid condition, which in this report included hypertension, smoking, and substance abuse, but only 30% had comorbid conditions that were considered "major". In Mexico, 84% of critical patients had an underlying condition, which in the report included hypertension, ever having smoked, and hyperlipidemia, conditions that are not considered risk factors for severe influenza outcomes.
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_10_16/en/index.html

In Mexico stats, over 19% of flu patients are smokers. Some of these ailments go hand-in-hand, too; I wonder if that doubles a person's chance of getting a severe case of the flu?

Sometimes healthy people have unhealthy habits. Just look at the stats for kids who experiment with drugs, take steroids, binge drink etc.... all are likely to be considered healthy with no underlying conditions.

Here's the Mexico link; it's now frequently updated:
http://portal.salud.gob.mx/sites/salud/descargas/pdf/influenza/situacion_actual_epidemia_231009.pdf
 
Re: Smoking, the "underlying condition"?

State of Indiana information on smoking and influenza:

http://www.in.gov/itpc/files/smoking_and_influenza_itpc.pdf
Smoking identified as a risk factor for
epidemic A(h1n1) influenza over 25 years ago!

An outbreak of A(H1N1) influenza was studied in an
Israeli military unit of 336 healthy young men in 1982
to determine the relation of cigarette smoking to the
incidence of influenza. Half of the men were smokers.
68.5% of smokers had influenza, as compared with
47% of nonsmokers. Influenza was also more severe
in the smokers; 51% of the smokers lost work days or
required bed rest, or both, as compared with 30% of
the nonsmokers.
A quarter of all severe illness from influenza in the
overall study population was attributable to smoking.
Researchers concluded that smoking is a major
determinant of disease in epidemic influenza and may
contribute substantially to incapacitation in outbreaks
in populations that smoke heavily.
.....
There IS a connection?
? Research shows an increase in influenza (flu) infections
among smokers compared to nonsmokers.
? Influenza cases are often more severe in smokers, and
there is a higher mortality rate for smokers than
nonsmokers from influenza.
? Smoking is causally related to chronic coughing and
wheezing, bronchitis and emphysema in adults.
? Smokers contract upper and lower respiratory tract
infections more frequently than nonsmokers.
? Inhaling secondhand smoke also makes lungs more
susceptible to respiratory infections and illness.
? Children and infants exposed to secondhand smoke in the
home have dramatically higher levels of respiratory
symptoms, respiratory tract infections, and slower lung
development.


I was wondering about the arsenic connection:

http://www.rsc.org/Publishing/ChemScience/Volume/2005/12/Toxic_smoke.asp
Toxic elements in cigarette smoke

25 November 2005

Heavy metals like arsenic, cadmium and lead have been detected in sidestream cigarette smoke, demonstrating that these toxic elements can travel different distances in air flow.

Smoking cigarettes produces upwards of 4000 chemicals; many are toxic and around 40 cause cancer. These compounds remain in the air as environmental tobacco smoke which is inhaled by other people in the area. There are two main types of tobacco smoke: mainstream tobacco smoke that is exhaled by the smoker and sidestream smoke that comes from the tip of the burning cigarette.
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While investigating heavy metals in sidestream cigarette smoke, researchers at tobacco company Philip Morris, US, found a build up of arsenic in the chimney used in the first stage of their collection equipment. This phenomenon was not seen for cadmium or lead. They think that the reason for this is that arsenic could be a liquid vapour while the cadmium and lead are solid particulates.

Michael Chang and colleagues used a device called a 'fishtail' chimney for funneling the smoke from a burning cigarette towards a jet impactor which collected smoke as a condensate. The remaining smoke that had eluded capture was put though a mixed cellulose ester filter to attempt to catch the rest. Different ways were tried of preparing the smoke that had condensed in different parts of the equipment. The best method was slurry sampling, which involved using the detergent Triton X-100 and nitric acid to make a slurry with the smoke condensate. Inductively coupled mass spectrometry was used to analyse the slurry.

The deposition of a larger percentage of the total arsenic (20 per cent), than cadmium or lead (less than 5 per cent) in the chimney shows that toxic elements in cigarette smoke can travel differently in an air flow and can deposit at different points. The researchers think this behaviour is caused by differences between solid (particulate) and liquid (vapour) phase elements.

Wendy E M Crocker
 
Re: Smoking, the "underlying condition"?

Bumping this up since H1N1 is prevalent again this season.
 
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