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Swine flu advice Health Chief: "My advice to parents is to trust their own judgement"

Gert van der Hoek

In Memoriam - Editor, Senior Moderator
Tamiflu warning as swine flu cases rise

20 September 2009

By David MacLean

PARENTS whose children have been given Tamiflu for swine flu are being urged to contact their GPs if their conditions worsen.

The symptoms of swine flu can be similar to other illnesses that Tamiflu is not effective in treating.

Because its symptoms are harder to assess in young children, South Tyneside health chiefs say it is important for parents and carers to keep a close eye on them.

Marietta Evans, director of public health for South Tyneside Primary Care Trust (PCT), said: "My advice to parents is to trust their own judgement.

"Most children will get better and recover from flu in five days.

"If parents are concerned that their child is not picking up, seems to be getting worse, or has developed new symptoms, they should contact their GP, or the out-of-hours service if the surgery is closed."


Symptoms to look out for in children include not drinking fluids well, urinating less, vomiting, drowsiness, breathing difficulties, a worsening cough, high temperature or rash.

The advice comes as scientists warn that a second wave of swine flu could be on its way after a rise in the number of new cases in South Tyneside.

For the first time in weeks, there has been an increase in the number of people diagnosed with the virus in the South of Tyne and Wear Primary Care Trust's patch.

Within the last week, 571 people in that area, also including Gateshead and Sunderland, received the antiviral drug Tamiflu, up from 523 the week before.

The rise follows the return of children, identified as key spreaders of the disease, to school.

PCT bosses have also reiterated their advice on basic hygiene.

"Cover your nose and mouth when coughing or sneezing, dispose of dirty tissues promptly and carefully, and wash hands frequently with soap and water," said Ms Evans.

Anyone who suspects they have swine flu should not go to their GP or an accident and emergency unit.

The National Pandemic Flu Service gives people with swine flu symptoms fast access to antivirals, freeing GPs to deal with other illnesses.

It can be contacted at www.direct.gov.uk/pandemicflu or on 0800 151 3100.

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/Tamiflu-warning-as-swine-flu.5663015.jp
 
Re: Swine flu advice Health Chief: "My advice to parents is to trust their own judgement"

How could UK and Canada for the matter goes on with their own judment when effects are not provided because of censure to the dangerous Glaxo-Smith-Kline with AS03 adjuvant as stated in GSK own paper?

You cannot have a clear decision if dangerous datas are hidden from you.

GSK AS03 is not licensed for use in US and rejected in Europe except U.K. and Canada

cf: to http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/.../H-832-en6.pdf

Identit? et Contenu des compos?s de l'adjuvant AS03
(polysorbate 80, α-tocopherol et squal?ne)
Autres Ingr?dients:
Octoxynol 10
Sodium chloride
Disodium phosphate
Potassium dihydrogen phosphate
Potassium chloride
Magnesium chloride
Thiomersal
Eau pour injections

In the page 11 of GSK pdf it is LOUD and CLEAR, Pregnant women and children should not received the adjuvant vaccine.

Snowy Owl
 
Re: Swine flu advice Health Chief: "My advice to parents is to trust their own judgement"

How could UK and Canada for the matter goes on with their own judment when effects are not provided because of censure to the dangerous Glaxo-Smith-Kline with AS03 adjuvant as stated in GSK own paper?

You cannot have a clear decision if dangerous datas are hidden from you.

GSK AS03 is illegal in US and rejected in Europe except U.K. and Canada

cf: to http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/.../H-832-en6.pdf

Identit? et Contenu des compos?s de l'adjuvant AS03
(polysorbate 80, α-tocopherol et squal?ne)
Autres Ingr?dients:
Octoxynol 10
Sodium chloride
Disodium phosphate
Potassium dihydrogen phosphate
Potassium chloride
Magnesium chloride
Thiomersal
Eau pour injections

In the page 11 of GSK pdf it is LOUD and CLEAR, Pregnant women and children should not received the adjuvant vaccine.

Snowy Owl

Am I missing the point? Are you refering to the H1N1 vaccine possibly having adjuvent? This report is on H5N1?
 
Re: Swine flu advice Health Chief: "My advice to parents is to trust their own judgement"

Am I missing the point? Are you refering to the H1N1 vaccine possibly having adjuvent? This report is on H5N1?

Well, there seem to be several points here .. :)

The reason I started this thread is this warning:

"parents keep a close eye on your child when it has flu-like symptoms, even if Tamiflu is given. Swine flu can develop fast into a real severe illness.
Or it may be something else but swineflu. Use you own judgement"

Snowy Owl makes another point : "watch out for the GSK-vaccine with adjuvant, it can have neurological effects for unborn babies".

Also the use of Thiomersal is not without discussion.

So it seems pregnant women and small children should prefer other vaccinnes.

It is the same adjuvant - AS03 - developed for a H5N1 vaccine now used for the swineflu vaccine.
 
Re: Swine flu advice Health Chief: "My advice to parents is to trust their own judgement"

Am I missing the point? Are you refering to the H1N1 vaccine possibly having adjuvent? This report is on H5N1?

I am talking solely about the AS03 adjuvant dangerous effects as noted by US and Europe

cf to Bloomberg article at what GSK trying to do in US (they are now proposing their vaccine without adjuvant).

Glaxo initially concentrated on development of its vaccine with an adjuvant, said Sarah Alspach, a Glaxo spokeswoman, in an e-mail. Adjuvants are ingredients used by some countries in vaccine formulations to boost effectiveness. U.S. health officials said they favored a swine flu shot that didn?t use the extra ingredient and their clinical tests are being conducted on vaccines without adjuvants.
Glaxo earlier this month submitted a request to the FDA for approval of the company?s non-adjuvanted vaccine, Alspach said.
?We are working with the FDA and HHS to support the government?s plans for vaccination in the U.S.,? she said in the e-mail.



http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aL1RsswD_C44


Snowy



Snowy
 
Re: Swine flu advice Health Chief: "My advice to parents is to trust their own judgement"

Ok, please excuse me here because I don't know anything about this stuff and am not a scientist :rolleyes: BUT...
Why are the UK govt adding this adjuvant when nobody else is ?
What is their reason - is it cheaper ?
Where can I read more about this without being too technical ?
My husband has heart disease and is at risk. I feel that catching flu is a risk we take in life - but deliberately taking a vaccine which causes problems is not a risk, it's a stupidity!! :confused:
 
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