kent nickell
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When China buys our debt one thing they are doing is essentially aiding our housing problem by lending money to people to buy homes.... Since they were buying a lot of our debt some people think this helped fuel the housing crisis... If people are very willing to buy our debt this also helps keep interest rates down. This also helped China as they were using their yuan to do all this buying thus flooding the system with their currency and thereby devaluing it which helps make their exports cheaper on the world market... When you use your currency to buy others' currencies you strengthen that currency by making it less available...
When this is done by countries on the foreign exchange markets it is essentially manipulating your currency. This is generally not considered in good form. Switzerland does this and is given a pass as their currency is seen as being very strong and a safe haven so they are tacitly allowed to try and devalue it some...
Private investors also get involved in currency foreign exchange markets for better or worse... They can move literally billions of dollars into and out of these markets in ways that can be useful and market balancing but also in ways that can be predatory and destabilizing.... This is why some countries don't fully disclose their reserve status, so that they don't become possible targets for a run on their currency if it is perceived to be weak....
Since China is a major financial player they attract a lot of foreign capital... However, they are very restrictive on how this capital moves into and out of the country which they can use to their advantage as they manipulate the value of their currency.. This has its advantages to China but as Krugman argues this is currently an out of whack policy...
It is essentially protectionism and eventually protectionism can get you into trouble... You can't stay healthy as the rest of the world deteriorates... Major players need to try and help the world economy as a whole partly for their own interest.. The US has a responsibility by having the dollar as the main reserve currency so they don't sell it in the foreign exchange markets although a weaker dollar would help our exports...
As Krugman points out China needs to let the value of their currency rise... This is painful as it will hurt their export business but it will be useful to them as it will strengthen their domestic demand for their own goods. This is needed as the export business is drying up anyway... Also by selling dollars back into the system they are essentially engaging in quantitative easing. This would help our Fed cut back on their own quantitative easing programs... A stronger Chinese currency would also be more in keeping with their status as a major player allowing them to increase imports which would be very useful to many neighboring Asian countries....
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/opinion/23krugman.html?_r=1
Op-Ed Columnist
The Chinese Disconnect
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: October 22, 2009
Senior monetary officials usually talk in code. So when Ben Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman, spoke recently about Asia, international imbalances and the financial crisis, he didn?t specifically criticize China?s outrageous currency policy.
But he didn?t have to: everyone got the subtext. China?s bad behavior is posing a growing threat to the rest of the world economy. The only question now is what the world ? and, in particular, the United States ? will do about it.
Some background: The value of China?s currency, unlike, say, the value of the British pound, isn?t determined by supply and demand. Instead, Chinese authorities enforced that target by buying or selling their currency in the foreign exchange market ? a policy made possible by restrictions on the ability of private investors to move their money either into or out of the country.
There?s nothing necessarily wrong with such a policy, especially in a still poor country whose financial system might all too easily be destabilized by volatile flows of hot money. In fact, the system served China well during the Asian financial crisis of the late 1990s. The crucial question, however, is whether the target value of the yuan is reasonable.
Until around 2001, you could argue that it was: China?s overall trade position wasn?t too far out of balance. From then onward, however, the policy of keeping the yuan-dollar rate fixed came to look increasingly bizarre. First of all, the dollar slid in value, especially against the euro, so that by keeping the yuan/dollar rate fixed, Chinese officials were, in effect, devaluing their currency against everyone else?s. Meanwhile, productivity in China?s export industries soared; combined with the de facto devaluation, this made Chinese goods extremely cheap on world markets.
The result was a huge Chinese trade surplus. If supply and demand had been allowed to prevail, the value of China?s currency would have risen sharply. But Chinese authorities didn?t let it rise. They kept it down by selling vast quantities of the currency, acquiring in return an enormous hoard of foreign assets, mostly in dollars, currently worth about $2.1 trillion.
Many economists, myself included, believe that China?s asset-buying spree helped inflate the housing bubble, setting the stage for the global financial crisis. But China?s insistence on keeping the yuan/dollar rate fixed, even when the dollar declines, may be doing even more harm now.
Although there has been a lot of doomsaying about the falling dollar, that decline is actually both natural and desirable. America needs a weaker dollar to help reduce its trade deficit, and it?s getting that weaker dollar as nervous investors, who flocked into the presumed safety of U.S. debt at the peak of the crisis, have started putting their money to work elsewhere.
But China has been keeping its currency pegged to the dollar ? which means that a country with a huge trade surplus and a rapidly recovering economy, a country whose currency should be rising in value, is in effect engineering a large devaluation instead.
And that?s a particularly bad thing to do at a time when the world economy remains deeply depressed due to inadequate overall demand. By pursuing a weak-currency policy, China is siphoning some of that inadequate demand away from other nations, which is hurting growth almost everywhere. The biggest victims, by the way, are probably workers in other poor countries. In normal times, I?d be among the first to reject claims that China is stealing other peoples? jobs, but right now it?s the simple truth.
So what are we going to do?
U.S. officials have been extremely cautious about confronting the China problem, to such an extent that last week the Treasury Department, while expressing ?concerns,? certified in a required report to Congress that China is not ? repeat not ? manipulating its currency. They?re kidding, right?
The thing is, right now this caution makes little sense. Suppose the Chinese were to do what Wall Street and Washington seem to fear and start selling some of their dollar hoard. Under current conditions, this would actually help the U.S. economy by making our exports more competitive.
In fact, some countries, most notably Switzerland, have been trying to support their economies by selling their own currencies on the foreign exchange market. The United States, mainly for diplomatic reasons, can?t do this; but if the Chinese decide to do it on our behalf, we should send them a thank-you note.
The point is that with the world economy still in a precarious state, beggar-thy-neighbor policies by major players can?t be tolerated. Something must be done about China?s currency.
When this is done by countries on the foreign exchange markets it is essentially manipulating your currency. This is generally not considered in good form. Switzerland does this and is given a pass as their currency is seen as being very strong and a safe haven so they are tacitly allowed to try and devalue it some...
Private investors also get involved in currency foreign exchange markets for better or worse... They can move literally billions of dollars into and out of these markets in ways that can be useful and market balancing but also in ways that can be predatory and destabilizing.... This is why some countries don't fully disclose their reserve status, so that they don't become possible targets for a run on their currency if it is perceived to be weak....
Since China is a major financial player they attract a lot of foreign capital... However, they are very restrictive on how this capital moves into and out of the country which they can use to their advantage as they manipulate the value of their currency.. This has its advantages to China but as Krugman argues this is currently an out of whack policy...
It is essentially protectionism and eventually protectionism can get you into trouble... You can't stay healthy as the rest of the world deteriorates... Major players need to try and help the world economy as a whole partly for their own interest.. The US has a responsibility by having the dollar as the main reserve currency so they don't sell it in the foreign exchange markets although a weaker dollar would help our exports...
As Krugman points out China needs to let the value of their currency rise... This is painful as it will hurt their export business but it will be useful to them as it will strengthen their domestic demand for their own goods. This is needed as the export business is drying up anyway... Also by selling dollars back into the system they are essentially engaging in quantitative easing. This would help our Fed cut back on their own quantitative easing programs... A stronger Chinese currency would also be more in keeping with their status as a major player allowing them to increase imports which would be very useful to many neighboring Asian countries....
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/opinion/23krugman.html?_r=1
Op-Ed Columnist
The Chinese Disconnect
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: October 22, 2009
Senior monetary officials usually talk in code. So when Ben Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman, spoke recently about Asia, international imbalances and the financial crisis, he didn?t specifically criticize China?s outrageous currency policy.
But he didn?t have to: everyone got the subtext. China?s bad behavior is posing a growing threat to the rest of the world economy. The only question now is what the world ? and, in particular, the United States ? will do about it.
Some background: The value of China?s currency, unlike, say, the value of the British pound, isn?t determined by supply and demand. Instead, Chinese authorities enforced that target by buying or selling their currency in the foreign exchange market ? a policy made possible by restrictions on the ability of private investors to move their money either into or out of the country.
There?s nothing necessarily wrong with such a policy, especially in a still poor country whose financial system might all too easily be destabilized by volatile flows of hot money. In fact, the system served China well during the Asian financial crisis of the late 1990s. The crucial question, however, is whether the target value of the yuan is reasonable.
Until around 2001, you could argue that it was: China?s overall trade position wasn?t too far out of balance. From then onward, however, the policy of keeping the yuan-dollar rate fixed came to look increasingly bizarre. First of all, the dollar slid in value, especially against the euro, so that by keeping the yuan/dollar rate fixed, Chinese officials were, in effect, devaluing their currency against everyone else?s. Meanwhile, productivity in China?s export industries soared; combined with the de facto devaluation, this made Chinese goods extremely cheap on world markets.
The result was a huge Chinese trade surplus. If supply and demand had been allowed to prevail, the value of China?s currency would have risen sharply. But Chinese authorities didn?t let it rise. They kept it down by selling vast quantities of the currency, acquiring in return an enormous hoard of foreign assets, mostly in dollars, currently worth about $2.1 trillion.
Many economists, myself included, believe that China?s asset-buying spree helped inflate the housing bubble, setting the stage for the global financial crisis. But China?s insistence on keeping the yuan/dollar rate fixed, even when the dollar declines, may be doing even more harm now.
Although there has been a lot of doomsaying about the falling dollar, that decline is actually both natural and desirable. America needs a weaker dollar to help reduce its trade deficit, and it?s getting that weaker dollar as nervous investors, who flocked into the presumed safety of U.S. debt at the peak of the crisis, have started putting their money to work elsewhere.
But China has been keeping its currency pegged to the dollar ? which means that a country with a huge trade surplus and a rapidly recovering economy, a country whose currency should be rising in value, is in effect engineering a large devaluation instead.
And that?s a particularly bad thing to do at a time when the world economy remains deeply depressed due to inadequate overall demand. By pursuing a weak-currency policy, China is siphoning some of that inadequate demand away from other nations, which is hurting growth almost everywhere. The biggest victims, by the way, are probably workers in other poor countries. In normal times, I?d be among the first to reject claims that China is stealing other peoples? jobs, but right now it?s the simple truth.
So what are we going to do?
U.S. officials have been extremely cautious about confronting the China problem, to such an extent that last week the Treasury Department, while expressing ?concerns,? certified in a required report to Congress that China is not ? repeat not ? manipulating its currency. They?re kidding, right?
The thing is, right now this caution makes little sense. Suppose the Chinese were to do what Wall Street and Washington seem to fear and start selling some of their dollar hoard. Under current conditions, this would actually help the U.S. economy by making our exports more competitive.
In fact, some countries, most notably Switzerland, have been trying to support their economies by selling their own currencies on the foreign exchange market. The United States, mainly for diplomatic reasons, can?t do this; but if the Chinese decide to do it on our behalf, we should send them a thank-you note.
The point is that with the world economy still in a precarious state, beggar-thy-neighbor policies by major players can?t be tolerated. Something must be done about China?s currency.